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<blockquote data-quote="Bad Paper" data-source="post: 3094370" data-attributes="member: 24674"><p>uh. yeah, 11 or thereabouts.</p><p></p><p>I disagree with increasing the grapple check so drastically. This thing is weak and lacks things with which to grapple: tentacles, jaws, hands.</p><p></p><p>Giving half damage to grappled victims makes sense for something smaller like a cloaker, but if this thing is huge, I cannot see how me hacking it over here gives damage to someone fifteen feet away. I would drop or alter this mechanic.</p><p></p><p>Your weapon-type adjustments are bizarre. I see no logic for immunity to bludgeoning. Think about the gibbering mouther's DR 5/bludgeoning, and compare it to the zombie's DR 5/slashing. Is this thing more like a mass of GM flesh or a mass of Z stringy muscle? I guess the piercing thing is OK. Maybe make it something cool like DR 5/magic, wood, and bludgeoning. Who's going to beat it with a stick?</p><p></p><p>I would drop the racial grapple modifier (for that is what that +10 is) and rethink the weapon-type stuff. Since you changed its attack mode to essentially mimic a swarm, maybe read up on the various swarms' damage reduction/weapon-type modifiers.</p><p></p><p>If you did these things, then its CR drops to 9 or 10. Maybe keep the racial grapple modifier (as an offset to the free-AoO "swarm" mechanic) at +4 (bonus feat, anyone?). I would shoot to make this thing a CR10.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bad Paper, post: 3094370, member: 24674"] uh. yeah, 11 or thereabouts. I disagree with increasing the grapple check so drastically. This thing is weak and lacks things with which to grapple: tentacles, jaws, hands. Giving half damage to grappled victims makes sense for something smaller like a cloaker, but if this thing is huge, I cannot see how me hacking it over here gives damage to someone fifteen feet away. I would drop or alter this mechanic. Your weapon-type adjustments are bizarre. I see no logic for immunity to bludgeoning. Think about the gibbering mouther's DR 5/bludgeoning, and compare it to the zombie's DR 5/slashing. Is this thing more like a mass of GM flesh or a mass of Z stringy muscle? I guess the piercing thing is OK. Maybe make it something cool like DR 5/magic, wood, and bludgeoning. Who's going to beat it with a stick? I would drop the racial grapple modifier (for that is what that +10 is) and rethink the weapon-type stuff. Since you changed its attack mode to essentially mimic a swarm, maybe read up on the various swarms' damage reduction/weapon-type modifiers. If you did these things, then its CR drops to 9 or 10. Maybe keep the racial grapple modifier (as an offset to the free-AoO "swarm" mechanic) at +4 (bonus feat, anyone?). I would shoot to make this thing a CR10. [/QUOTE]
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