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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1671389" data-attributes="member: 6875">Well, part of myproblem, of course, is trying to use summon monster spells as primary tactic ... in a 25th level arena.&nbsp; ^_^&nbsp; But that's what Enhanced Summons is for (get numbers as if you had cast a summon one level higher than you actually cast - IOW, 1d3of the same level, or 1d4+1 of one level lower).&nbsp; An enhanced Empowered summon monster IX can get 1d3 x 1.5 (1, 3, or 4) top-level critters, or 1d4 x 1.5 (3, 4, 6, or 7) of the critters from the VIII list.&nbsp; And yes, he's got the 11th level slots for it.&nbsp; Whee!&nbsp; Or, more fun: an enhanced Quickened Twin Summon Monster III and select from the &quot;II&quot; list; sure, the're hit-kills, but I'll get 2d4+2 of them, and that many pseudonatural kython broodlings will atleast take a round or two to chop through.&nbsp; Or Twin, Empower Summon Monster V, and grab a bunch of Pseudonatural Jovocs.&nbsp; Go ahead, kill 'em - you'll simply hurt yourself in the meantime (that aura of theirs is NASTY).&nbsp; ^_^&nbsp; 'specially ifI follow up with a quickened Summon VII, and grab me 1d3 Pseudonatural Glimmerskins to bond to the Jovocs .... HEH.&nbsp; Or ... or ... or ... well, LOTs of stuff.&nbsp; ^_^'</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 1671389, member: 6875"] Well, [b]part[/b] of myproblem, of course, is trying to use summon monster spells as primary tactic ... in a 25th level arena. ^_^ But that's what Enhanced Summons is for (get numbers as if you had cast a summon one level higher than you actually cast - IOW, 1d3of the same level, or 1d4+1 of one level lower). An enhanced [i]Empowered summon monster IX[/i] can get 1d3 x 1.5 (1, 3, or 4) top-level critters, or 1d4 x 1.5 (3, 4, 6, or 7) of the critters from the VIII list. And yes, he's got the 11th level slots for it. Whee! Or, more fun: an enhanced [i]Quickened Twin Summon Monster III[/i] and select from the "II" list; sure, the're hit-kills, but I'll get [b]2d4+2[/b] of them, and that many [color=green]pseudonatural[/color] kython broodlings will atleast take a round or two to chop through. Or Twin, Empower Summon Monster V, and grab a bunch of Pseudonatural Jovocs. Go ahead, kill 'em - you'll simply hurt [i]yourself[/i] in the meantime (that aura of theirs is NASTY). ^_^ 'specially ifI follow up with a quickened Summon VII, and grab me 1d3 Pseudonatural Glimmerskins to bond to the Jovocs .... HEH. Or ... or ... or ... well, LOTs of stuff. ^_^' [/QUOTE]

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