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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6627949" data-attributes="member: 6716779">I have run 3 or 4 Dragon encounters IIRC.The 1st one was vs a Adult black in its lair (CR 14 or 15 IIRC) vs 5 or 6 PCsof level 8 IIRC. They killed it and fled to an ancient temple when Tiamats cultists turned up en-masses. Repeated encounters with 20-40 kobolds gets old fast. While they were fleeing in a skyship they had an encounter with 2 young blue Dragons in the skies who used their speed to fly under the airship and only came up when thier breath weapon recharged. This was probably one of the hardest 5E fights I ran and it lasted around 20 rounds. The Dragons hung back where the crossbow expert fighter had trouble hitting them and only came a bit close once breath weapons recharged. The melee PCs were a bit useless and the spellcasters were depleted and could only fling firebolts vs hit and fade Dragons. We also fought the larger blue Dragon at levle 13 IIRC but my valor bard hit it with Ottos Irresistible Dance and it died rapidly. Dragons basically suck in 5E being basically hit point meat bags with a nasty breath weapon. They lack the true fear effects, immunities to non-magical weapons and spells which made Dragons a bit more terrifying in older D&D. 2E was the only edition to really make Dragons scary as they were glass cannons in BECMI/1E and underpowered vs PC abilities in 3E and in 4E they were low damage buckets of hit point pinata's for PCs. You have to deplete the PCs a lot or do hit and run with breath weapons. Dragons need immunity to nonmagical weapons brought back for the older ones, real magic resistance (advantage on saves is useless vs spells with no saves), spell caster levels, and automatic fear effects on low CR critters at a minimum.</blockquote>

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