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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1066613" data-attributes="member: 6875">I don't think everything you can craft should neccessarily HAVE amasterwork version.  Are there masterwork bags of Tanglefoot?  Nope, yet Craft (alchemy) is there ..."Anyone" can paint a technically perfect landscape.  Artists do more than that.  It's not one's dexterity that matters, it's one's ability to express the meaning and emotion of a scene through the visual medium that counts.  Art is a performance -- it's just one you conduct beforehand, and can display repeatedly.Is music less of a performance when a tape recorder is present?Masterwork bread doesn't have to taste different from regular bread -- but that ten-foot-long, five-foot-high, exquisitely-detailed bread-sculpture (stuffed with meats, ofc) of a DRAGON at His Majesty's table at the Feast of Knights is DEFINITELY a masterwork item, n'est-ce pas?We're talking medieval here.  You're overspecialising, and turning the manufacture of a book into an assembly-line process.  The same man, woman, or whatever probably makes the paper, does the writing by hand, and binds it into a book.Or his apprentices do some of the steps.  *shrug*You're really stuck on "craft means you can make masterwork", aren't you?  A masterwork house is a manor house, and costs a darn sight more than 150gp.So, what skill is used to build a house ... ?You've heard correctly.And in real life, it can take YEARS to figure out how to cut an especially-good stone.  It's value tends to go up by orders of magnitude, too.If you think cutting a gem takes an hour ... you've never looked at what it TAKEs to cut a gem.  The physical process may take a short amount of time -- but the planning, callculation, and preparation takes FOREVER.After all, one mis-placed whack with that hammer and chisel ... and you just ruined a gem worth mroe than yoru whole VILLAGE.Mason's don't MAKE bricks, they LAY them.  Brickmakers make bricks.I suggest you read up on what a mason is or isn't before you say they "just make bricks".  Bricks, btw, ARE raw materials -- one of two needed to make a brick wall, or a brick chimney, etc.  The other ingredient is mortar.The laborers may be holding the stone, but the stonemason is the one telling them EXACTLY where to put it (to within surprisingly narrow tolerances ... there're stone walls the Inca built, where you can't fit a human HAIR between any two given stones ...).Again -- you're desribing a clerk.  A scribe makes the inks (several of them), and before the days of hte printing press, scribes made BOOKS.  Period.There were no stores to go and bu"Red #42", "Blue #6", and" Gold Leaf #3, Antique" as ink colors.  If you wanted a given color, you made it yourself.Get the hint here, please: you do not need a masterwork version of something to qualify for a Craft skill. Sure they do.  Nice suedes, fine kid leather, durable leather for aprons.  Some all-leather clothign items, or otehr products, you'd get directly fromt eh tanner as well.The armor comes form teh leatherworker.  HE, in turn, buys the highest-quality leather from the tanner.Remember: the ability to make a masterwork version of yoru product is NOT a requirement for the paplication of the craft skill.</blockquote>

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