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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5888460" data-attributes="member: 92305">OK, let's look at this, step by step. Either I'm doing it wrong, or something is out of whack and not understood by all. I'll use the D&D rule since most of you don't have the Conan RPG to refer to. I'll use the rule, step by step, right out of the 3.5 Player's Handbook (instructions start at the bottom of pg. 70). You show me what I'm doing wrong.    STEP 1: FIND THE COST OF THE ITEM IN SILVER PIECES. We want to make a dagger. The dagger costs 2 gp, which means the dagger costs 20 sp.   STEP 2: FIND THE DC TO MAKE THE ITEM. From the table in the book, a dagger is a Simple weapon, therefore it's a DC 12 to make this item.  STEP 3: PAY FOR THE COST OF RAW MATERIALS. OK, the dagger costs 20 sp. Raw Materials is 1/3 of that price, so the raw materials for the dagger is 6 sp (drop fractions as per normal d20 rules).  STEP 4: MAKE CRAFT CHECK REPRESENTING ONE WEEK'S WORK. Simple enough. Roll a d20 and get an 18. Add +8 for Caelis' skill, for a total of 26. The check is successful because we've rolled higher than the DC 12. Our smith: Caelis with Craft (Weaponsmith) +8    SUCCESS! If the check succeeds, we multiply the total of the check by the DC. That's 26 x 12 = 312. (We'll call that 312 Production). If Production is equal to or greater than the cost of the item in silver pieces, then the item is complete in a week. Since 312 is greater than 20, the dagger is certainly completed in a week.   REDUCED MANUFACTURING TIME. The rule says, on pg. 71 of the 3.5 PHB, that if Production is twice the item cost, then construction time is halved. If Production is three times the cost, then construction time is reduced to one third. If Production time is four times the cost, then construction time is one fourth the usual. 312 / 20 = 15 (drop fractions). This means that construction time is 1/15 of a week. Assuming an 8 hour work day and 5 day work week, that's 40 hours / 15 = 2 hours (drop fractions). So, these rules are saying that a dagger can be made in 2 hours by this smith (who has a decent skill at +8).     Right? I did all that correctly? It seems incredible to me that a dagger can be made that quickly, if we're starting from scratch and not using an assembly line.   We've got to carve the hilt, then maybe wrap the hilt in leather.  We've got to make the blade, shape it, cool it, then sharpen it.  We've got to attached the handle to the blade.  Maybe put on a cross-guard. And, maybe we're making a simple leather sheath to go along with it. All of that in 2 hours?</blockquote>

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