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Message: <blockquote data-quote="llamatron2000" data-source="post: 3700348" data-attributes="member: 33814">I hardly think this is absurd.Joe, the human fighter is a blacksmith.  He learned it from his father, and has been taught blacksmithing his whole life(skill focus).  And he completed his apprenticeship(4 ranks) while learning how to fight.  Joe is a little smarter than others(13 int), too. He is 18 years old, three years over adult age, the average starting age for a person like himself, and has been conscripted into the army.Joe often gets tasked to do blacksmith duty, as he is good at it.  He's given two assistants.  Apprentices who do not have the lifelong training he does.  He's also been given high-quality tools(masterwork) by the army, and equipment.What Joe can do with this equates to about 11 gp per week, a very respectable income for an artisan.  He is, after all, a PC and better at what he does compared to most people.  Because of his skill, Joe gets a bonus in his montly stipend while working with the army.  He also knows that when his term is up, that he will be able to ply his trade for a respectable income.He can make 2 longswords in a week.In two weeks, he can make a masterwork longsword and another regular longsword.He still doesn't have the skill necessary to efficiently make plate mail.  It will take him over half a year(36 weeks) to make such a suit of armor.  This is reserved for master smiths.  In fact, he can't make any decent armor in a week's time.  It takes him a single week for one shield, or two weeks for a suit of banded mail.So yes.  A 1st level PC could easily make plate mail.  If he has a year to work on it for 8 hours every day.</blockquote>

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