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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 4314846" data-attributes="member: 5890">Compared with the previous... oh, look. A paragraph of rules for covering crafting, which didn't work to produce a coherent system. Yeah, sure lost a lot there.No, the argument is that you should, like the 4e designers most likely did, go through a design process.Step 1. Determine what needs will be filled by a system and compare those with the cost of said system. Determine whether said system is actually worth having and if so, how much time should be dedicated to it.So far the OP says &quot;I need a crafting system&quot; and &quot;Currently we use the crafting system thusly&quot;.The OPs current system seems to be &quot;the players decide what they can make based on pictures and flavour text, then the 3e rules supply their random numbers and we roll dice a lot and everyone has fun and is happy&quot;. I've been asking if the &quot;we roll dice a lot&quot; bit is really needed for the fun.Eh? &quot;Here is a comic where someone used the word appalling to describe a game score, and the comic makes fun of this fact. I tie it to your use of the phrase 'gross oversight'&quot;. Hardly a personal attack. Hardly thinly veiled.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 4314846, member: 5890"] Compared with the previous... oh, look. A paragraph of rules for covering crafting, which didn't work to produce a coherent system. Yeah, sure lost a lot there. No, the argument is that you should, like the 4e designers most likely did, go through a design process. Step 1. Determine what needs will be filled by a system and compare those with the cost of said system. Determine whether said system is actually worth having and if so, how much time should be dedicated to it. So far the OP says "I need a crafting system" and "Currently we use the crafting system thusly". The OPs current system seems to be "the players decide what they can make based on pictures and flavour text, then the 3e rules supply their random numbers and we roll dice a lot and everyone has fun and is happy". I've been asking if the "we roll dice a lot" bit is really needed for the fun. Eh? "Here is a comic where someone used the word appalling to describe a game score, and the comic makes fun of this fact. I tie it to your use of the phrase 'gross oversight'". Hardly a personal attack. Hardly thinly veiled. [/QUOTE]

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