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<blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 7596290" data-attributes="member: 12377"><p>I play this way, and it's awesome. The 20-30 goblins aren't acting alone: they're minions for a formorian warlock. They attack in a group and function more like a terrain hazard, at least until a <em>fireball</em> or a couple of <em>shatters</em> takes them all out.</p><p></p><p>It's similar to 4E's minions, except that you don't need special rules for it, thanks to... bounded accuracy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Speaking of "who even plays this way?," I think we should be comparing a level 1 character to a level 8 character when those two PCs won't be in the same party. I think the more important comparison is between PCs. Bob the level 8 archer may have a total +9 to attack with a longbow -- but Penelope the level 8 war cleric with a mediocre Dex only has a +5, and Sam the level 8 mountain dwarf wizard could pick up the longbow and have a -1 to attack.</p><p></p><p>That's where you see the difference in hit chance. And increasing the proficiency bonus exacerbates that difference. It's unlikely that Sam will pick up a longbow since she's 50% less likely to hit than Bob, but it could happen. But if you increase that discrepancy, it becomes even less likely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="77IM, post: 7596290, member: 12377"] I play this way, and it's awesome. The 20-30 goblins aren't acting alone: they're minions for a formorian warlock. They attack in a group and function more like a terrain hazard, at least until a [I]fireball[/I] or a couple of [I]shatters[/I] takes them all out. It's similar to 4E's minions, except that you don't need special rules for it, thanks to... bounded accuracy. Speaking of "who even plays this way?," I think we should be comparing a level 1 character to a level 8 character when those two PCs won't be in the same party. I think the more important comparison is between PCs. Bob the level 8 archer may have a total +9 to attack with a longbow -- but Penelope the level 8 war cleric with a mediocre Dex only has a +5, and Sam the level 8 mountain dwarf wizard could pick up the longbow and have a -1 to attack. That's where you see the difference in hit chance. And increasing the proficiency bonus exacerbates that difference. It's unlikely that Sam will pick up a longbow since she's 50% less likely to hit than Bob, but it could happen. But if you increase that discrepancy, it becomes even less likely. [/QUOTE]
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