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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7872454" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>WotC doesn't really have a good handle on population density & such. That 2 mil figure was probably pulled from the fact that it sounded good rather than fitting those kind of questions. Prior to about 1900 we really didn'<em>t have</em> skyscrapers like we think of them today. Sure church steeples & such were impressively tall, but from 1797-1885 the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_world%27s_tallest_buildings#Skyscrapers" target="_blank">tallest skyscraper </a>was a 52 foot tall mill. We broke 500 feet in the late 1800s & are just over 800 feet tall since 2010. </p><p></p><p>To get a good estimate of pop size estimate how tall/dense the buildings should be & find a historical city that was similar or extrapolate from it. The Eberron community did it after Rising & it shows just how bad WotC's population numbers for large cities can be, Geographically Sharn is similarly sized with Manhattan but the towers go up about a mile. Keith Baker has said that Sharn is about the size of manhattan stacked on top of itself 8 times over... Even though that falls far short of a mile high, not every building needs to be that tall. Rising says sharn has half a mil pop & that puts it on 1850s manhattan not the 8-12++ mil that 8x manhattan would have & that shows just how far off WotC is with population ballpark numbers. </p><p></p><p>London has a lot in common with Waterdeep from historical standpoints.. is <a href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Greater-London" target="_blank">about 1.1 square miles & the "Greater London Metropolitan Area" just over 600sq miles</a>(and much larger than waterdeep at 45 miles across) & has population estimates that go <a href="http://www.demographia.com/dm-lon31.htm" target="_blank"><em>wayyyyyyyy</em></a> back. Depending on where you drop the pin in history, waterdeep probablty has 30-150k pop... That's still <em>gigantic</em> for a city in FR's level of technological advancement, but it's a size that can import enough food to feed itself with FR's level of food production, transport, & industry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7872454, member: 93670"] WotC doesn't really have a good handle on population density & such. That 2 mil figure was probably pulled from the fact that it sounded good rather than fitting those kind of questions. Prior to about 1900 we really didn'[I]t have[/I] skyscrapers like we think of them today. Sure church steeples & such were impressively tall, but from 1797-1885 the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_world%27s_tallest_buildings#Skyscrapers']tallest skyscraper [/URL]was a 52 foot tall mill. We broke 500 feet in the late 1800s & are just over 800 feet tall since 2010. To get a good estimate of pop size estimate how tall/dense the buildings should be & find a historical city that was similar or extrapolate from it. The Eberron community did it after Rising & it shows just how bad WotC's population numbers for large cities can be, Geographically Sharn is similarly sized with Manhattan but the towers go up about a mile. Keith Baker has said that Sharn is about the size of manhattan stacked on top of itself 8 times over... Even though that falls far short of a mile high, not every building needs to be that tall. Rising says sharn has half a mil pop & that puts it on 1850s manhattan not the 8-12++ mil that 8x manhattan would have & that shows just how far off WotC is with population ballpark numbers. London has a lot in common with Waterdeep from historical standpoints.. is [URL='https://www.britannica.com/place/Greater-London']about 1.1 square miles & the "Greater London Metropolitan Area" just over 600sq miles[/URL](and much larger than waterdeep at 45 miles across) & has population estimates that go [URL='http://www.demographia.com/dm-lon31.htm'][I]wayyyyyyyy[/I][/URL] back. Depending on where you drop the pin in history, waterdeep probablty has 30-150k pop... That's still [I]gigantic[/I] for a city in FR's level of technological advancement, but it's a size that can import enough food to feed itself with FR's level of food production, transport, & industry. [/QUOTE]
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