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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7872645" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>The ancient city of rome is bigger than waterdeep at about 14km (8.6miles) across</p><p>[SPOILER="Roma"].[ATTACH=full]116770[/ATTACH].[/SPOILER]</p><p>It also had running water, public baths, public latrines, & more thanks to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_aqueduct" target="_blank">Aquaduct</a>... <a href="https://twitter.com/TheEdVerse/status/1048365547363205120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1048365547363205120&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sageadvice.eu%2F2018%2F11%2F14%2Fdoes-waterdeep-have-running-water%2F" target="_blank">Waterdeep has wells..</a> More importantly Rome was the center of an organized empire that managed trade, conducted war, expaded itself, built roads, maintained roads etc. Waterdeep not so much. The Roman Empire had better roads than FR & the city of Rome could not have existed at the timewith out those roads. I may have overlooked it, but nobody in Faerun is building or maintaining roads llike the romans did. Rome had that population <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_Roman_Empire#Urbanization" target="_blank">because</a> it did all those things. Other huge trade hub cities at the time were things like (<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria" target="_blank">Alexandria</a>, <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioch" target="_blank">Antioch</a>, <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage" target="_blank">Carthage</a>, <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephesus" target="_blank">Ephesus</a>, <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salona" target="_blank">Salona</a> etc.) had populations of about a few hundred thousand & waterdeep should be similar at best. Faerun being isolated nations little more than manorial towns leaning so heavily on the bones of past empires really hurts it when it comes to plausibly supporting cities like waterdeep</p><p></p><p>Your target choice of the 1900ish population explosion of those cities ignore what happened with high density construction capabilities between <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_world%27s_tallest_buildings#Skyscrapers" target="_blank">1885 & 1908</a>. The tallest skyscraper between 1785 & 1885 was 52 feet tall. From 1885 to 1889 it was nearly 3 times that at 138 feet tall. Then again 1889-1908 it was 550feet tall... They just kept growing in height from there. Population density exploded because people started building up rather than out & more importantly things like freight trains& soon after cars/trucks became ubiquitous for bringing produce, raw materials, & finished products into, out of, & across those booming cities.... faerun doesn't have any of that.</p><p></p><p>Having a plausible population in watedeep does not hurt waterdeep or FR, in a lot of ways it actually helps it by removing some of the "don't look over here" handwaiving the OP touched on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7872645, member: 93670"] The ancient city of rome is bigger than waterdeep at about 14km (8.6miles) across [SPOILER="Roma"].[ATTACH type="full"]116770[/ATTACH].[/SPOILER] It also had running water, public baths, public latrines, & more thanks to the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_aqueduct']Aquaduct[/URL]... [URL='https://twitter.com/TheEdVerse/status/1048365547363205120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1048365547363205120&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sageadvice.eu%2F2018%2F11%2F14%2Fdoes-waterdeep-have-running-water%2F']Waterdeep has wells..[/URL] More importantly Rome was the center of an organized empire that managed trade, conducted war, expaded itself, built roads, maintained roads etc. Waterdeep not so much. The Roman Empire had better roads than FR & the city of Rome could not have existed at the timewith out those roads. I may have overlooked it, but nobody in Faerun is building or maintaining roads llike the romans did. Rome had that population [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_Roman_Empire#Urbanization']because[/URL] it did all those things. Other huge trade hub cities at the time were things like ([URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria']Alexandria[/URL], [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioch']Antioch[/URL], [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage']Carthage[/URL], [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephesus']Ephesus[/URL], [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salona']Salona[/URL] etc.) had populations of about a few hundred thousand & waterdeep should be similar at best. Faerun being isolated nations little more than manorial towns leaning so heavily on the bones of past empires really hurts it when it comes to plausibly supporting cities like waterdeep Your target choice of the 1900ish population explosion of those cities ignore what happened with high density construction capabilities between [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_world%27s_tallest_buildings#Skyscrapers']1885 & 1908[/URL]. The tallest skyscraper between 1785 & 1885 was 52 feet tall. From 1885 to 1889 it was nearly 3 times that at 138 feet tall. Then again 1889-1908 it was 550feet tall... They just kept growing in height from there. Population density exploded because people started building up rather than out & more importantly things like freight trains& soon after cars/trucks became ubiquitous for bringing produce, raw materials, & finished products into, out of, & across those booming cities.... faerun doesn't have any of that. Having a plausible population in watedeep does not hurt waterdeep or FR, in a lot of ways it actually helps it by removing some of the "don't look over here" handwaiving the OP touched on. [/QUOTE]
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