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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7876590" data-attributes="member: 93670">that 1840 1.9mil figure for inner &amp; outer london is massively larger than waterdeep at about 45miles across &amp; 607 square miles, Waterdeep is 3.5x1.5 miles for 5.25 square miles.&nbsp; You are comparing an area smaller than inner london (light grey) to the popuation&nbsp; of outer london.[ATTACH=full]116877[/ATTACH]All of those little boroughs exist on that inner/outer(greater) london map because&nbsp; it's needed for governance.&nbsp; Waterdeep has the inner but not outer.&nbsp;&nbsp; People who were outside that dark grey area lived somewhere else that is not part of london*. A population of 2 mil would put its density somewhere around 10x the density of modern day Manila &amp; Mumbai.&nbsp; <a href="http://oakthorne.net/wiki/images/Map-waterdeep-sm-1491DR.jpg" target="_blank">Waterdeep has wards</a> for it (smaller) equivalent to the light grey inner london.&nbsp; You also can't apply the powers in charge of waterdeep itself to hand wave logistical/hygene/general density related problems to <a href="https://waterdeep-dh-lb.fandom.com/wiki/Undercliff" target="_blank">undercliff</a> because it's a lawless shantytown.&nbsp; The idea that the ~100 mile stretch between waterdeep &amp; daggerford is going to be a solid urban sprawl is just silly and ignores the fact that the greater london population grew by roughly half a mil between 1820 &amp;1830 due to them building a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Great_Britain_1830%E2%80%931922" target="_blank">rail system</a> then.&nbsp; Eventually they finished that surface rail system &amp; started the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground" target="_blank">london underground </a>(subway) in the 1860s.&nbsp; FR is nowhere near the point of being advanced enough for having (let alone building &amp; operating) a train/rail system &amp; jumping it forward to either of those points would drastically change the fabric of what FR is.&nbsp; FR should embrace what it is.* otherwise known by terms such as another city or unclaimed/unsettled wilderness</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7876590, member: 93670"] that 1840 1.9mil figure for inner & outer london is massively larger than waterdeep at about 45miles across & 607 square miles, Waterdeep is 3.5x1.5 miles for 5.25 square miles. You are comparing an area smaller than inner london (light grey) to the popuation of outer london. [ATTACH type="full" alt="1576714514339.png"]116877[/ATTACH] All of those little boroughs exist on that inner/outer(greater) london map because it's needed for governance. Waterdeep has the inner but not outer. People who were outside that dark grey area lived somewhere[I] else [/I]that is not part of london*. A population of 2 mil would put its density somewhere around 10x the density of [I]modern day[/I] Manila & Mumbai. [URL='http://oakthorne.net/wiki/images/Map-waterdeep-sm-1491DR.jpg']Waterdeep has wards[/URL] for it (smaller) equivalent to the light grey inner london. You also can't apply the powers in charge of waterdeep itself to hand wave logistical/hygene/general density related problems to [URL='https://waterdeep-dh-lb.fandom.com/wiki/Undercliff']undercliff[/URL] because it's a lawless shantytown. The idea that the ~100 mile stretch between waterdeep & daggerford is going to be a solid urban sprawl is just silly and ignores the fact that the greater london population grew by roughly half a mil between 1820 &1830 due to them building a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Great_Britain_1830%E2%80%931922']rail system[/URL] then. Eventually they finished that surface rail system & started the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground']london underground [/URL](subway) in the 1860s. FR is nowhere near the point of being advanced enough for having (let alone building & operating) a train/rail system & jumping it forward to either of those points would drastically change the fabric of what FR is. FR should embrace what it is. * otherwise known by terms such as another city or unclaimed/unsettled wilderness [/QUOTE]

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