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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7205724" data-attributes="member: 996">Sure, the idea is clearly valid.  To further quibble with how it was 'back in the day,' though (because I'm old, and compulsive about that sorta thing), no one was really playing 'by the RAW,' (and not just because the idea was minted in the 3e era) - the closest you could come to that is a DM who teased out the non-contradictory portions of the PH & DMG rules and stuck to what he felt was the closest-to-the-letter-of-the-rules interpretations that remotely worked.  Every game was different back in the day, especially the ones that purported to be 'by the book.'   Fair 'nuff.  Sorry about my compulsive quibbling... Yes & yes.   One of the first signs that 2e was going to be crazy-broken... There was nothing dubious about the restrictiveness of class/level limits, they were about as subtle as a sledge-hammer.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Stripping of sub-class is highly variable by class, though, since sub-class is more significant to some than others.  And the -1 level is virtually trivial under BA.Even-advancement under the 5e optional MC rules really isn't too bad.  It can get you something similar to the classic MC characters.  Your spellcasting is going to max out at 5th level spells, which fits the best non-human magic-user in 1e, the elf, topping out at 11th.  But your proficiency will keep pace through 20th, which fits unlimited advancement as a Thief in 1e.   Really, the Bladesinger or EK isn't a bad way to do a 1e MC'd elf, either.  Throw in the Criminal background and you've got a fighter/magic-user/thief, or at least a fair suggestion of one.But to really get all the way there, you'd need some sort of gestalt/hybrid system, which more or less fillets each class and lets you paste the results together...</blockquote>

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