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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6760091" data-attributes="member: 4937">I personally feel that &quot;Void&quot; is a much stronger choice, and far more in flavor for the &quot;God of the Alienated&quot; than spirit. The problem with Spirit is that it is greater than all the others, so whatever god is the god of spirit, that god rules over the others.&nbsp; Depending on how dualistic the cosmology is, the god of spirit might in fact be the only necessary god.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you have the one god that is the god of spirit, then all the other gods are merely the gods of dead, motionless, and volitionless things and each needs the god of spirit to give motion, purpose, and law to it.&nbsp; So I'd much rather spirit be a concept shared equally among the elements, so that each god is the highest embodiment of the spirit of the thing that they represent, because 5 coequal gods to me is more interesting than a head god and 4 vassals.&nbsp; The problem of evil is one of the central problems in any cosmology.&nbsp; In my opinion, the Chalion pantheon in its otherwise excellent conception starts breaking down when the author (among other things) tries to address the problem of evil.&nbsp;&nbsp; To get evil in your cosmology, at some point, a flaw gets introduced.&nbsp;&nbsp; This might result from the hubris of young gods if your gods are less than omniscient.&nbsp; This might result from one god's jealousy of the others.&nbsp; This might result from the gods being begotten into a universe that was already flawed.&nbsp;&nbsp; This might result from the god's discovering themselves as flawed, and making the choice to reject the darker part of themselves.&nbsp; This might result from rebellion by offspring or created beings whom the gods love to much to destroy or are otherwise constrained to act against, or else who turn out to be so mighty that they can unexpectedly thwart and resist their creators.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6760091, member: 4937"] I personally feel that "Void" is a much stronger choice, and far more in flavor for the "God of the Alienated" than spirit. The problem with Spirit is that it is greater than all the others, so whatever god is the god of spirit, that god rules over the others. Depending on how dualistic the cosmology is, the god of spirit might in fact be the only necessary god. If you have the one god that is the god of spirit, then all the other gods are merely the gods of dead, motionless, and volitionless things and each needs the god of spirit to give motion, purpose, and law to it. So I'd much rather spirit be a concept shared equally among the elements, so that each god is the highest embodiment of the spirit of the thing that they represent, because 5 coequal gods to me is more interesting than a head god and 4 vassals. The problem of evil is one of the central problems in any cosmology. In my opinion, the Chalion pantheon in its otherwise excellent conception starts breaking down when the author (among other things) tries to address the problem of evil. To get evil in your cosmology, at some point, a flaw gets introduced. This might result from the hubris of young gods if your gods are less than omniscient. This might result from one god's jealousy of the others. This might result from the gods being begotten into a universe that was already flawed. This might result from the god's discovering themselves as flawed, and making the choice to reject the darker part of themselves. This might result from rebellion by offspring or created beings whom the gods love to much to destroy or are otherwise constrained to act against, or else who turn out to be so mighty that they can unexpectedly thwart and resist their creators. [/QUOTE]

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