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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6760314" data-attributes="member: 4937">Ok... I have a sneaking suspicion that if I knew where you were going, that I wouldn't agree with it any way so that's probably for the best.&nbsp; I'm absolutely worn out on discussions of real world religion(s) and their impact on philosophy the past few days.I kinda got the impression you were neglecting the spirits themselves in your conception of what was made of spirit, but I still don't understand where you get from there.&nbsp; Greek myth is generally regarded as one of the more advanced polytheistic conceptions, and it certainly hasn't moved past an animist view of the universe.&nbsp;&nbsp; Greek myth generally has not only major deific lords of over a thing, but incarnated versions of the thing, and a host of representations of the specific instances of the thing each of which is subject to their lord.&nbsp; Thus, you can have not only Poseidon who is the deified King over the ocean and dwells beneath it, but Oceanus who is the spirit of the ocean whose physical form is literally the ocean, and a host of nymphs and naiads who are the small local gods that are the spirit of individual bodies of water, currents, and springs.&nbsp; And all of these beings are alive and have will and ability to move, because they have a spirit that animates them.In most D&amp;D that pays attention to these things, elementals are spirits of fire or water or what have you.&nbsp; So this 'spirit' you have isn't the&nbsp; animus of the thing.So you have a god of rocks, and then a god of all living things, all people, and all technology and you expect this to be as an equal distribution in the minds of the believers?Even more so, this raises questions that if the body of a thing is made of &quot;spirit&quot;, why does it need food and water as nourishment.&nbsp; And if the spirit is only a small portion of the thing, and its mostly dust and water with some air in it, what does the &quot;spirit&quot; part actually do?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6760314, member: 4937"] Ok... I have a sneaking suspicion that if I knew where you were going, that I wouldn't agree with it any way so that's probably for the best. I'm absolutely worn out on discussions of real world religion(s) and their impact on philosophy the past few days. I kinda got the impression you were neglecting the spirits themselves in your conception of what was made of spirit, but I still don't understand where you get from there. Greek myth is generally regarded as one of the more advanced polytheistic conceptions, and it certainly hasn't moved past an animist view of the universe. Greek myth generally has not only major deific lords of over a thing, but incarnated versions of the thing, and a host of representations of the specific instances of the thing each of which is subject to their lord. Thus, you can have not only Poseidon who is the deified King over the ocean and dwells beneath it, but Oceanus who is the spirit of the ocean whose physical form is literally the ocean, and a host of nymphs and naiads who are the small local gods that are the spirit of individual bodies of water, currents, and springs. And all of these beings are alive and have will and ability to move, because they have a spirit that animates them. In most D&D that pays attention to these things, elementals are spirits of fire or water or what have you. So this 'spirit' you have isn't the animus of the thing. So you have a god of rocks, and then a god of all living things, all people, and all technology and you expect this to be as an equal distribution in the minds of the believers? Even more so, this raises questions that if the body of a thing is made of "spirit", why does it need food and water as nourishment. And if the spirit is only a small portion of the thing, and its mostly dust and water with some air in it, what does the "spirit" part actually do? [/QUOTE]

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