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<blockquote data-quote="cmanos" data-source="post: 2382282" data-attributes="member: 25472">Held to be activated would imply, held to deactivate.&nbsp; I don't particularly care for that activation.&nbsp; Gets totally around the command word aspect of wondrous items.&nbsp; If that is what he'd like, I would make him have the Silent Spell feat.&nbsp; And remember a CL4 item only needs a Caster Level Check with a DC of 15 to dispel.&nbsp; I would definitely allow anyone else to pick up the stone and deactivate it.&nbsp; I think he needs to be a bit more explicit as to the activation/deactivation system.&nbsp; Holding could mean anyone holding it.&nbsp; He activates it and throws it, an enemy picks it up and it deactivates it.&nbsp; If he means activating and deactivating at will, I'd make him make a Use Magical Device or Caster Level check to deactivate it.&nbsp; No, the mage who activated it would not be able to deactivate it if he were not in possession of it, but anyone else that happened to pick it up would, unless a UMD or Caster Level were needed to deactivate it.I think what he is trying to do is make a magic item that he can activate and throw to minimize spellcasters abilities.&nbsp; Not a bad idea as there is nothing in the rules for it.&nbsp; Does the DMGII go into more details about how to come up with CL and cost for magic items?&nbsp; I know there are several I have suggested and been told 'can't be done' as there is nothing specifically in the rules stating it can be done.I don't like the 'broken up however the user likes'.&nbsp; I would say 3x a day for no longer than one minute or until deactivated.For reference - Elixer of Sneaking, a one time, personal only item, has a CL5.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cmanos, post: 2382282, member: 25472"] Held to be activated would imply, held to deactivate. I don't particularly care for that activation. Gets totally around the command word aspect of wondrous items. If that is what he'd like, I would make him have the Silent Spell feat. And remember a CL4 item only needs a Caster Level Check with a DC of 15 to dispel. I would definitely allow anyone else to pick up the stone and deactivate it. I think he needs to be a bit more explicit as to the activation/deactivation system. Holding could mean anyone holding it. He activates it and throws it, an enemy picks it up and it deactivates it. If he means activating and deactivating at will, I'd make him make a Use Magical Device or Caster Level check to deactivate it. No, the mage who activated it would not be able to deactivate it if he were not in possession of it, but anyone else that happened to pick it up would, unless a UMD or Caster Level were needed to deactivate it. I think what he is trying to do is make a magic item that he can activate and throw to minimize spellcasters abilities. Not a bad idea as there is nothing in the rules for it. Does the DMGII go into more details about how to come up with CL and cost for magic items? I know there are several I have suggested and been told 'can't be done' as there is nothing specifically in the rules stating it can be done. I don't like the 'broken up however the user likes'. I would say 3x a day for no longer than one minute or until deactivated. For reference - Elixer of Sneaking, a one time, personal only item, has a CL5. [/QUOTE]

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