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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 5809825" data-attributes="member: 1095">Well I can answer the first question pretty easily, though confusingly worded. In sum, Yes. When in hybrid/animal form you get the better of either your human or animal scores for physical scores (Str/Dex/Con) and +2 to Str and +2 to Con. Your mental stats are always the same and adjusted by +2 Wis/ -2 Cha. As a lycanthrope you gain Change Shape, which functions as Polymorph, which when used to gain an animal shape functions as Beast Shape II, except where specifically noted. Basically the new polymorph rules are that non of your abilities change except as noted in the spell. For a lycanthrope that means that their stats only change as noted, in hybrid/animal form for the two physical and always for the two mental.Per the special ability: Change Shape (Su) A creature with this special quality has the ability to assume the appearance of a specific creature or type of creature (usually a humanoid), but retains most of its own physical qualities. A creature cannot change shape to a form more than one size category smaller or larger than its original form. This ability functions as a polymorph spell, the type of which is listed in the creature's description, but the creature does not adjust its ability scores (although it gains any other abilities of the creature it mimics). Unless otherwise stated, it can remain in an alternate form indefinitely. Some creatures, such as lycanthropes, can transform into unique forms with special modifiers and abilities. These creatures do adjust their ability scores, as noted in their description.As to the second question, it is very confusing to me what the "power level" of a werebear is. It shows CR 4, but it is a 4th Level Ranger, which means that the CR of a level 4 ranger is 3 because a lycanthrope is CR+1. All that is beside the point however because the Monsters as PCs reference says to use CR to gauge level only for those creatures who have Racial HD, which Lycanthropy no longer gives, it is just CR +1, but I can't imagine a Natural Lycanthrope who gets stat increases and DR 10/Silver as only counting as 1 level for starting more powerful... I would fall back on the 3.5 LA +3 for Natural Lycanthropes personally, so 1 class level would make you level 4...Alternately you could assume that a CR4 Werebear is correct and instead of Ranger you can use whatever 4 levels of class you'd like to...As far as I can tell though, the Pathfinder Lycanthropes only count as +1 ECL...</blockquote>

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