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<blockquote data-quote="Rashak Mani" data-source="post: 127576" data-attributes="member: 642">In books we see a lot of those special horses... many times magical in nature like Shadowfax... or Alexander the Great´s Bucephalus ... yet where are those specially bred or those extra tough horses that once in a while show up ?&nbsp; A warrior prince wont just ride any warhorse... after all those stats for Light and Heavy Warhorses and Warponies reflect the &quot;average&quot; horse dont they ?&nbsp; &nbsp; In the future in a big city or by chance the players might find a horse breeder that could sell them Horses that gamewise have either better Str... better Con or possibly a marginal speed advantage when running like a +5 feet (total +20 running).&nbsp; &nbsp; Imagine your Fighter that has lost many a mount in combat finding a chance to buy a Heavy Warhorse that is very well trained and has +4 Con as well... a real &quot;War&quot;horse... how much wouldnt it be worth beyond that normal&nbsp; 400 gp ?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or even maybe a 5 HD Heavy Warhorse ?&nbsp;&nbsp; At higher levels of gaming these would even be required to survive simple combat. (One must agree that a 30 hp average HEAVY Warhorse is a little pathetic...) &nbsp; &nbsp; Even a higher wisdom is a good thing better scent and Will saves... Dex helps too... &nbsp; &nbsp; What about prices ?&nbsp; Suggestions on how to price such individual animals ?&nbsp; How much would you be willing to pay to a Bucephalus like horse with 5 HD +4 Con +2 Str +2 Wis +2 Dex +20 ft when running ?&nbsp; &nbsp; On a side note... these horses can become Paladin mounts as well...( DM decision not Paladin )..making the acquisition from the Horse breeder quite a problem if the price is steep... but solves the many &quot;Mount Survival threads&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rashak Mani, post: 127576, member: 642"] In books we see a lot of those special horses... many times magical in nature like Shadowfax... or Alexander the Great´s Bucephalus ... yet where are those specially bred or those extra tough horses that once in a while show up ? A warrior prince wont just ride any warhorse... after all those stats for Light and Heavy Warhorses and Warponies reflect the "average" horse dont they ? In the future in a big city or by chance the players might find a horse breeder that could sell them Horses that gamewise have either better Str... better Con or possibly a marginal speed advantage when running like a +5 feet (total +20 running). Imagine your Fighter that has lost many a mount in combat finding a chance to buy a Heavy Warhorse that is very well trained and has +4 Con as well... a real "War"horse... how much wouldnt it be worth beyond that normal 400 gp ? Or even maybe a 5 HD Heavy Warhorse ? At higher levels of gaming these would even be required to survive simple combat. (One must agree that a 30 hp average HEAVY Warhorse is a little pathetic...) Even a higher wisdom is a good thing better scent and Will saves... Dex helps too... What about prices ? Suggestions on how to price such individual animals ? How much would you be willing to pay to a Bucephalus like horse with 5 HD +4 Con +2 Str +2 Wis +2 Dex +20 ft when running ? On a side note... these horses can become Paladin mounts as well...( DM decision not Paladin )..making the acquisition from the Horse breeder quite a problem if the price is steep... but solves the many "Mount Survival threads". [/QUOTE]

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