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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 6855296" data-attributes="member: 1">No, you're conflating two different systems there. The one in Fantasy Equipment is for designing magic items for PCs to buy. It's not for use for PCs to cast spells on items during play. Using the magic rules to create object, there's no way to get permanency without spending 21 MP.To be honest, I've totally lost track! But no, that 41K was part of the conflation.  Don't worry about that. I thought you wanted to take a 21MP permanency and apply it to the Fantasy Equipment system.If you used the Fantasy Equipment system to devise a magic item your players could buy or find:1. Get a pair of exceptional quality boots (either buy them, make them, or conjure them*). 2. Once you had a pair of such boots, you'd then use 2MP to give them +2 SPEED, and 5 MP for an at-will ability. You can leave the duration at 0 MP (up to one minute).3. Take your 7 MP total, square it, and multiple by 100 = 4,900gc. Plus whatever the cost of a pair of exceptional boots is (unless you conjured them*).4. You can now at-will spend two actions to activate the boots for one minute.*If you conjure them, you can use enduring object to make the boots permanent, but that's all that does. Gives you a pair of boots which won't vanish. You then have to enchant them.If your player tries to simply use magic to enchant a pair of boots:1. Get a pair of exceptional quality boots (either buy them, make them, or conjure them*). That's the only monetary value you need to worry about.2. Once you had a pair of such boots, you'd then use 2MP to give them +2 SPEED, and 21MP to make that enchantment permanent. So it would cost 23MP. You'd need to be a pretty powerful caster to pull that off.3. You now have a pair of boots which permanently give you +2 SPEED.It's pretty hard to create permanent magic items that way. Realistically, the player isn't going to be able to do it the second way; the first way is the best way to go, but you only have the design math so far, not the actual rules on how long and what it costs a PC to make such things. That's in EoM, but for now you can assume as a quick rule that it costs half the value (so 2,450gc) in components and the like, and one day per MP (so 7 days).</blockquote>

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