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<blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 4124770" data-attributes="member: 1003">First off, it's not &quot;not covered in the rules.&quot; Rituals are a rule-system.&nbsp; In this context, &quot;Ritual&quot; just means a rule-system for describing inputs (gold, time, materials, etc.) and outputs (a spell effect, masterwork item, temporary bonus to a _____ check, etc.).&nbsp; Speculation has been that even if the PHB does not explicitly provide for it, this rule-system could be quite flexible. There could be different kinds of rituals for each power source (martial, divine, arcane, primal, shadow, etc.) and &quot;mundane&quot; rituals too, such as crafting a run-of-the-mill longsword.For mundane items, you could handle it with either fluff or an explicit &quot;vocation&quot; type thing. Like: &quot;Each player picks a vocation at 1st level. This is what you were before you went adventuring.&quot;&nbsp; I'm not a fan of that though, since not choosing weaponsmith, armorsmith or bowyer seems like an obvious self-gimp.&nbsp; There should only be meaningful choices in character generation.I'd prefer that most PCs can perform basic maintenance and repairs on their equipment, but that they need to seek out a real craftsman if they need anything more complicated than that. Fighters don't know how to forge an ax any more than a wizard knows how to turn a cow and a pile of firewood into a spellbook. I think this would encourage more creative character backgrounds and story-building too, by saying &quot;Don't worry about effectiveness, just write whatever you think works best for this character's narrative.&quot;&nbsp; It's also a bit of a statement to the effect of &quot;Even if you were a weaponsmith's apprentice, you clearly didn't stick with it and finish your apprenticeship - otherwise, when would you have found the time to learn how to fight/cast spells so well?&quot; No one can be good at everything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Irda Ranger, post: 4124770, member: 1003"] First off, it's not "not covered in the rules." Rituals are a rule-system. In this context, "Ritual" just means a rule-system for describing inputs (gold, time, materials, etc.) and outputs (a spell effect, masterwork item, temporary bonus to a _____ check, etc.). Speculation has been that even if the PHB does not explicitly provide for it, this rule-system could be quite flexible. There could be different kinds of rituals for each power source (martial, divine, arcane, primal, shadow, etc.) and "mundane" rituals too, such as crafting a run-of-the-mill longsword. For mundane items, you could handle it with either fluff or an explicit "vocation" type thing. Like: "Each player picks a vocation at 1st level. This is what you were before you went adventuring." I'm not a fan of that though, since not choosing weaponsmith, armorsmith or bowyer seems like an obvious self-gimp. There should only be meaningful choices in character generation. I'd prefer that most PCs can perform basic maintenance and repairs on their equipment, but that they need to seek out a real craftsman if they need anything more complicated than that. Fighters don't know how to forge an ax any more than a wizard knows how to turn a cow and a pile of firewood into a spellbook. I think this would encourage more creative character backgrounds and story-building too, by saying "Don't worry about effectiveness, just write whatever you think works best for this character's narrative." It's also a bit of a statement to the effect of "Even if you were a weaponsmith's apprentice, you clearly didn't stick with it and finish your apprenticeship - otherwise, when would you have found the time to learn how to fight/cast spells so well?" No one can be good at everything. [/QUOTE]

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