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<blockquote data-quote="Bladesong" data-source="post: 4125732" data-attributes="member: 20800">I could be mistaken, but it seems to me the mechanics for these things ARE in the new system. Wasn't there some mention of anything you wanted/needed to do only required an ability check that included a bonus equal to 1/2 your level? So if you want to dig a moat and you are 8th level it could be a DC 10 INT check and if you had a 12 INT your modifier would be +4 for level and +1 for INT for a total of +5. It wouldn't be a pretty moat, but it would probably get the job done. If it needed to look good the DC could be 15, or was reinforced DC 20+.This should work for just about anything: craft, knowledge, etc. If someone wanted to become an &quot;expert&quot; at something, they could just take a feat that gives them that coveted +5 bonus for being trained.As far as &quot;time to make&quot; tables you could use the existing times listed from any number of sources, even in 3.5.I would probably require that it was somewhere in their background that they apprenticed with a smith or armorer, or went to some school, etc. and perhaps limit them to 1 &quot;skill&quot; per point of INT or some such to prevent them from being able to do every craft or have all knowledge under the sun.I do not even intend on switching to 4ed, but I have to concede that this is fairly good idea on their part.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bladesong, post: 4125732, member: 20800"] I could be mistaken, but it seems to me the mechanics for these things ARE in the new system. Wasn't there some mention of anything you wanted/needed to do only required an ability check that included a bonus equal to 1/2 your level? So if you want to dig a moat and you are 8th level it could be a DC 10 INT check and if you had a 12 INT your modifier would be +4 for level and +1 for INT for a total of +5. It wouldn't be a pretty moat, but it would probably get the job done. If it needed to look good the DC could be 15, or was reinforced DC 20+. This should work for just about anything: craft, knowledge, etc. If someone wanted to become an "expert" at something, they could just take a feat that gives them that coveted +5 bonus for being trained. As far as "time to make" tables you could use the existing times listed from any number of sources, even in 3.5. I would probably require that it was somewhere in their background that they apprenticed with a smith or armorer, or went to some school, etc. and perhaps limit them to 1 "skill" per point of INT or some such to prevent them from being able to do every craft or have all knowledge under the sun. I do not even intend on switching to 4ed, but I have to concede that this is fairly good idea on their part. [/QUOTE]

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