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<blockquote data-quote="RavinRay" data-source="post: 3394943" data-attributes="member: 16231">Well, there are five we seemingly can't touch: chromium, cobalt, iron, nickel, and tungsten, because those names were used for the five ferrous dragons that appeared in an old Dragon issue and which have been updated to 3.0 (not 3.5) stats except for tungsten at the Inzeladun site hosted by EN World. Some of the vets here (BOZ and co.) hinted that the ferrous dragons have been submitted as an article proposal to Paizo, and that it may have been accepted. We'll have to wait and see.In the meantime, we can expand metallic names to include alloys, because brass, bronze, and steel have already been used; there was a 2e electrum dragon that will be converted on another thread; I'm making a pewter dragon as well. I actually used cesium and rubidium dragons at first two of the three aquametallic dragons, which like magnesium are very reactive in water or air; but I changed that and got tumbaga, and might use amalgam as well.I suggested to Paizo a trio of &quot;lost&quot; metallic dragons to complement the &quot;lost&quot; orange, purple, and yellow dragons; these would be electrum (will be converted), pewter (new), and mercury (converted already). The steel dragon and brown dragon are the &quot;odd&quot; dragons of their families (the former is an alloy of a metal and non-metal, has two lethal breath weapons, and tend to LG-LN alignments; the latter is a broadly-defined color and is flightless). To add to that, I already have &quot;lost&quot; gem dragons over at the Wizards message board (jade, opal and turquoise) and classify the obsidian dragon as the &quot;odd&quot; gem dragon (obsidian is a glass not a crystal like the other gems, the dragon does not have fire resistance 15 because it already has the fire subtype and is consequently vulnerable to cold, and it has a NE alignment).Add up all those new dragons with the classic five from each family, and you have a grand total of 36 dragons, 12 each for the chromatic, metallic, and gem families.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RavinRay, post: 3394943, member: 16231"] Well, there are five we seemingly can't touch: chromium, cobalt, iron, nickel, and tungsten, because those names were used for the five ferrous dragons that appeared in an old [I]Dragon[/I] issue and which have been updated to 3.0 (not 3.5) stats except for tungsten at the Inzeladun site hosted by EN World. Some of the vets here (BOZ and co.) hinted that the ferrous dragons have been submitted as an article proposal to Paizo, and that it may have been accepted. We'll have to wait and see. In the meantime, we can expand metallic names to include alloys, because brass, bronze, and steel have already been used; there was a 2e electrum dragon that will be converted on another thread; I'm making a pewter dragon as well. I actually used cesium and rubidium dragons at first two of the three aquametallic dragons, which like magnesium are very reactive in water or air; but I changed that and got tumbaga, and might use amalgam as well. I suggested to Paizo a trio of "lost" metallic dragons to complement the "lost" orange, purple, and yellow dragons; these would be electrum (will be converted), pewter (new), and mercury (converted already). The steel dragon and brown dragon are the "odd" dragons of their families (the former is an alloy of a metal and non-metal, has two lethal breath weapons, and tend to LG-LN alignments; the latter is a broadly-defined color and is flightless). To add to that, I already have "lost" gem dragons over at the Wizards message board (jade, opal and turquoise) and classify the obsidian dragon as the "odd" gem dragon (obsidian is a glass not a crystal like the other gems, the dragon does not have fire resistance 15 because it already has the fire subtype and is consequently vulnerable to cold, and it has a NE alignment). Add up all those new dragons with the classic five from each family, and you have a grand total of 36 dragons, 12 each for the chromatic, metallic, and gem families. [/QUOTE]

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