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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8924374" data-attributes="member: 6790260">But the rules for these games explicitly reject playing them that way. They make extremely clear you should never do that, and that doing it that way is going to lead to boring, frustrating, unpleasant experiences. How can it be a "Play Style" of these games if these games explicitly tell players and GMs not to do that, repeatedly and consistently?But...why can't you just talk about it? Figure out what limits you each have. You don't need people to think the same way--you just need people willing to talk about what they think makes sense. My players and I frequently don't completely agree on what makes sense, but my response to that is to ask them to sell me on whatever they're doing.No "story" game I've ever heard of does anything like this, not even as a playstyle. You are describing something that is unrelated to playing "story" games.Not only have I not seen this, I have seen exactly the reverse. Players embracing a loss of power because it's what made sense. Yes, some players are sensitive, but my experience has not shown anywhere near the degree or severity of which you speak. For goodness' sake, you're talking about table-flipping simply because a round of combat happened. If most TTRPG players were like that, the games would never have existed!No. This is simply not true. There may be a rare few who are like this, but they are not anything like a large proportion of players overall.Absolutely not. You act like these are a plurality or even majority of players. I've never met one in 20 years of gaming.Uh...no. I certainly do and say things that upset others and I regret most of that. But I am quite capable of being a congenial and amiable person. Most folks, I can find something to talk about or to listen about, it's just a matter of overcoming my intense shyness and social anxiety.</blockquote>

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