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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 8924683" data-attributes="member: 6684958">So not know &quot;the offical rules&quot; your talking about, I very much doubt the rules say anything like that...simply because it is impossible.&nbsp; If you could maybe post the amazing rules?&nbsp; I doubt they are even close to what you suggest.&nbsp; After all, at minimum the wordy legalese would need to be at least several pages.&nbsp; And I doubt they exist.&nbsp; I think it's much more likely your talking about some vague useless rule that says &quot;have fun and don't be a jerk&quot;.&nbsp; Ok, but see with out 100,000 words to define both &quot;fun&quot; and &quot;jerk&quot;, such typed rules are useless.Again, this goes back to the game only working when all the players think alike and agree on nearly everything.&nbsp; But to what end?&nbsp; A great many players will abuse any system of rules, there is no &quot;talking to them&quot;.&nbsp; And plenty of players will try to sneak stuff around the edges of rules, or demand RAW.&nbsp; Again, you can't &quot;talk&quot; to such players.&nbsp; And why would I ever 'buy' most anything a player sells?Again, I am not talking about &lt;insert your favorite game here&gt;.&nbsp; If I was, I would name names.Well, it's way more common then you think.&nbsp; And Really, it goes for most games and activities.&nbsp; There are people that should they get even three letters in the basketball game &quot;horse&quot; will just throw away the ball and say &quot;they don't want to play anymore&quot;.Odd, I've met hundreds.&nbsp; Different social circles, I guess?Again, I'm not talking about&nbsp; &lt;insert your favorite game here&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; .Does me saying it was in a D&amp;D 5E game I was Watching at The Keep last year help you understand it better? So where do you see &quot;moving goal posts&quot; in my list of negative things players don't like and often react badly to?&nbsp; I don't get the push back.&nbsp; Ok, lets say that you personally have never, ever seen such a player.&nbsp; Why are you so opposed to the idea that the players exist?&nbsp; Why do you care if something exists or not, if it does not exist for you anyway.Like if I was to say there are people who watch very little 'screen shows/movies' and read books.&nbsp; Would you say you have never met a person that reads books, just because no one you know reads books?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 8924683, member: 6684958"] So not know "the offical rules" your talking about, I very much doubt the rules say anything like that...simply because it is impossible. If you could maybe post the amazing rules? I doubt they are even close to what you suggest. After all, at minimum the wordy legalese would need to be at least several pages. And I doubt they exist. I think it's much more likely your talking about some vague useless rule that says "have fun and don't be a jerk". Ok, but see with out 100,000 words to define both "fun" and "jerk", such typed rules are useless. Again, this goes back to the game only working when all the players think alike and agree on nearly everything. But to what end? A great many players will abuse any system of rules, there is no "talking to them". And plenty of players will try to sneak stuff around the edges of rules, or demand RAW. Again, you can't "talk" to such players. And why would I ever 'buy' most anything a player sells? Again, I am not talking about <insert your favorite game here>. If I was, I would name names. Well, it's way more common then you think. And Really, it goes for most games and activities. There are people that should they get even three letters in the basketball game "horse" will just throw away the ball and say "they don't want to play anymore". [I]Odd, I've met hundreds. Different social circles, I guess?[/I] Again, I'm not talking about <insert your favorite game here> . Does me saying it was in a D&D 5E game I was Watching at The Keep last year help you understand it better? So where do you see "moving goal posts" in my list of negative things players don't like and often react badly to? I don't get the push back. Ok, lets say that you personally have never, ever seen such a player. Why are you so opposed to the idea that the players exist? Why do you care if something exists or not, if it does not exist for you anyway. Like if I was to say there are people who watch very little 'screen shows/movies' and read books. Would you say you have never met a person that reads books, just because no one you know reads books? [/QUOTE]

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