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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8928475" data-attributes="member: 4937">That's a lengthy topic best taken elsewhere if we are going to go on about it, but briefly it's necessary to also look at my take on Spells.Consider this take on the classic spell &quot;Spider Climb&quot;Now that's a very useful spell but what it doesn't do is scale.&nbsp; In some ways, it's much more useful for the Wizard to cast it on the Rogue than it is to use it as a self-boost.&nbsp; It does allow the Wizard to traverse a basic climbing obstacle if needed, but it doesn't in anyway outshine what a highly skilled non-spellcaster might be able to do.A simple way to talk about the difference between my skills and RAW skills in 3.5 is that in 3.5 standing up from prone as a free action was a DC 35 Tumble check.&nbsp; In my game, it's a DC 15 Tumble check.&nbsp; A more surprising example is that one of my skills just directly adds to movement rate: +10 bonus to the skill means that you have a base move +10' per round.&nbsp; And it's worth noting Rogue has 13 skill points at 1st level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8928475, member: 4937"] That's a lengthy topic best taken elsewhere if we are going to go on about it, but briefly it's necessary to also look at my take on Spells. Consider this take on the classic spell "Spider Climb" Now that's a very useful spell but what it doesn't do is scale. In some ways, it's much more useful for the Wizard to cast it on the Rogue than it is to use it as a self-boost. It does allow the Wizard to traverse a basic climbing obstacle if needed, but it doesn't in anyway outshine what a highly skilled non-spellcaster might be able to do. A simple way to talk about the difference between my skills and RAW skills in 3.5 is that in 3.5 standing up from prone as a free action was a DC 35 Tumble check. In my game, it's a DC 15 Tumble check. A more surprising example is that one of my skills just directly adds to movement rate: +10 bonus to the skill means that you have a base move +10' per round. And it's worth noting Rogue has 13 skill points at 1st level. [/QUOTE]

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