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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8930880" data-attributes="member: 4937">I mean, for one thing, because they still work.&nbsp; I mean, first of all, there speaks the voice of inexperience.&nbsp; But secondly, if it really was a 20% chance to end or win a combat on the spot, that would still be pretty darn good.Depends on what you are going for.&nbsp; If your primary goal is balanced gameplay with uniform spotlight sharing and facilitating challenging gameplay then maybe.&nbsp; But if your primary goal is to simulate the magic of story and fairy tale, then absolutely you don't cut down the spell list because your more interested in a setting where wizards do big flashy things and work wonders and miracles than you are in only whether or not you are achieving some easy to see balance between classes.Fundamentally, as a guy that has ran 3e for a very long time, your PTSD from whatever bad game experiences you've had and the resulting chip on your shoulder about it just doesn't interest me much.&nbsp; If you want to talk about 3e in some sort of constructive manner, then I'm all for it.&nbsp; But if this is just going to be thinly disguised edition warring, then I'm not interested.&nbsp; I don't agree with you - 3e has some warts, but it is at a fundamental level the best designed edition of the game.&nbsp; Enjoy your DW.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8930880, member: 4937"] I mean, for one thing, because they still work. I mean, first of all, there speaks the voice of inexperience. But secondly, if it really was a 20% chance to end or win a combat on the spot, that would still be pretty darn good. Depends on what you are going for. If your primary goal is balanced gameplay with uniform spotlight sharing and facilitating challenging gameplay then maybe. But if your primary goal is to simulate the magic of story and fairy tale, then absolutely you don't cut down the spell list because your more interested in a setting where wizards do big flashy things and work wonders and miracles than you are in only whether or not you are achieving some easy to see balance between classes. Fundamentally, as a guy that has ran 3e for a very long time, your PTSD from whatever bad game experiences you've had and the resulting chip on your shoulder about it just doesn't interest me much. If you want to talk about 3e in some sort of constructive manner, then I'm all for it. But if this is just going to be thinly disguised edition warring, then I'm not interested. I don't agree with you - 3e has some warts, but it is at a fundamental level the best designed edition of the game. Enjoy your DW. [/QUOTE]

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