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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 1574262" data-attributes="member: 1264">Sounds about right at first sight, but I have to admit I don't have much experience assigning ECL's that are this high. A +10 LA would put the wyrmling on par with a young red dragon (13 HD + 6 LA). It has a much lower BAB and AC, but it's damage is nastier and harder to avoid, and the incorporeality probably more than makes up for the AC. That's about as far as my intuition goes.  Well, if you prefer to have it a little less explicit exactly what the dragon does with these items, we could add an ability similar to the Gold Dragon's Detect Gems (Sp):"Detect Planar Items (Sp): An old or older XXX can use this ability three times per day. This is a divination effect similar to a detect magic spell, except that it finds only magic items that have Gate, Planar Shift or Secret Chest as one of their item creation spell prerequisites (this includes bags of holding, portable holes, ring gates, etc.). The dragon can scan a 60-degree arc each round: By concentrating for 1 round it knows if there are any such items within the arc; 2 rounds of concentration reveal the exact number of items; and 3 rounds reveal their exact location, type, and value. This ability is the equivalent of a 2nd level spell."I just thought one was a natural extension of the other. You use exactly the same mechanism, just go to a different plane than the Material.Eh, if you prefer we can just have the Shed Skin ability. Note that at Old age, it does gain access to both Teleport and Plane Shift as spells anyway, due to its CL 9 (casting Plane Shift as a Clr5 spell). That's conveniently the same level where you put Multiplanar Rift. (We may still need to add some language somewhere on how those spells work for a creature such as this.) That's what I thought. Do you think we need to mention that explicitly? "Any object or creature entering the rift is sucked into the Astral plane (Tumble check DC 25 to avoid provoking an attack of opportunity while moving through an area occupied by an enemy, see the Tumble skill description).</blockquote>

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