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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 2182652" data-attributes="member: 1241">Thanks – that is really good to know.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  however, as Shade points out, in this case detect thoughts is replaced pretty well by read thoughts.not too sure about that… ILW is double the damage, and allows for a Will save.  How about:“Negative Touch” (Su): The touch attack of a diurge channels negative energy that deals 1d4 points of damage.Energy Drain (Su): Living creatures hit by a diurge’s touch attack gain one negative level.  The DC is X for the Fortitude save to remove a negative level.  The save DC is (Charisma)-based.  For each such negative level bestowed, the diurge gains 10 bonus power points. ?I’m not sure that they should be immune to stunning and disease?Maybe these two can be combined actually:Vulnerable to Turning (Ex): Although not undead beings, diurges can still be turned by good clerics (but not destroyed) as if they were undead of 4 Hit Dice higher than they are. Vulnerability to Turning (Ex): Any turning attempt targeting an apodalypse that would turn or rebuke an undead of the apodalypse's HD dazes the apodalypse for 1 round. A turn attempt that would destroy or command an undead of equivalent Hit Dice instead stuns an apodalypse for 2d4 rounds.  Negative Energy Affinity (Ex): A diurge is affected by cure spells and inflict spells as if it were an undead creature. A diurge can take an attack action to damage itself with its touch attack, healing 1d4 points of damage per attack.  Conversely, a diurge takes half again as much (+50%) damage as normal from a positive energy effect.Ah, OK… I’ll reserve that for the “Using with XPH” part.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Sounds good as well.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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