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<blockquote data-quote="Messageboard Golem" data-source="post: 2011982" data-attributes="member: 18387">First of all I think I'll take exception to the fact WoTC has done surpassed it's competition. Death in Freeport, for example, is a MUCH better module than the starter, Sunless Citadel. More interesting characters, more plot, more development, not mention the fact it's EASIER to make genertic than some dungeon crawl. Secondly, with respect to MM, while it's a good product, I don't see how it can be considered superior as it was just bland for the most part. Yes the templates were nice, yes the creatures were good. But compare that to a 2nd edition Monstrous Compendium, and I'm sure I'll get at least 10 guys that will like it better.With respect to CC2, it is a superior product. What it has is stuff your usual PCs would NEVER suspect being what they are. Haglings for example, while silly looking, make sure to keep a normal party off balance. &quot;Oh just some tricker or treaters! Ouch! Hey that kid just ripped of Jozan face! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&quot; That's what I like about CC2. Never sure what to expect.Finally, the lack of information about the Scarred Land in general, shouldn't detract from the fact they these monsters CAN and should be use anywhere, BESIDES you run of the mill Scarred Lands campaign. While I support the setting, that doesn't mean I shouldn't go around not using them else where. I mean if I was running an old 2nd edition Ravenloft campaign, shouldn't I be able to use something like a deepspawn? The point is, you kind of missing the boat about what these collections are about. However, that's just my opinion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Messageboard Golem, post: 2011982, member: 18387"] First of all I think I'll take exception to the fact WoTC has done surpassed it's competition. Death in Freeport, for example, is a MUCH better module than the starter, Sunless Citadel. More interesting characters, more plot, more development, not mention the fact it's EASIER to make genertic than some dungeon crawl. Secondly, with respect to MM, while it's a good product, I don't see how it can be considered superior as it was just bland for the most part. Yes the templates were nice, yes the creatures were good. But compare that to a 2nd edition Monstrous Compendium, and I'm sure I'll get at least 10 guys that will like it better. With respect to CC2, it is a superior product. What it has is stuff your usual PCs would NEVER suspect being what they are. Haglings for example, while silly looking, make sure to keep a normal party off balance. "Oh just some tricker or treaters! Ouch! Hey that kid just ripped of Jozan face! :)" That's what I like about CC2. Never sure what to expect. Finally, the lack of information about the Scarred Land in general, shouldn't detract from the fact they these monsters CAN and should be use anywhere, BESIDES you run of the mill Scarred Lands campaign. While I support the setting, that doesn't mean I shouldn't go around not using them else where. I mean if I was running an old 2nd edition Ravenloft campaign, shouldn't I be able to use something like a deepspawn? The point is, you kind of missing the boat about what these collections are about. However, that's just my opinion. [/QUOTE]

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