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<blockquote data-quote="DNH" data-source="post: 5699702" data-attributes="member: 63615"><p>Okay so here's the thing, we have a halfling rogue who wants to use stealth to go hidden and attack with combat advantage/sneak attack. The battlefield is an outdoors location in full daylight, with a few trees and bushes about. </p><p></p><p>The halfling (Pansy) runs up behind a tree and tries to hide.</p><p></p><p>Sorry, say I, the tree provides only partial cover.</p><p></p><p>"But I am Small!" says Pansy. "I am only 3' 8"!"</p><p></p><p>It is a fair point but it looks to me that the rules do not provide for creature size and cover. I mean, the thing about drawing imaginary lines covers it somewhat when considering Large and larger creatures but since Small and Medium creatures occupy the same space, there is no difference between them for cover. That can't be right, can it?</p><p></p><p>(In fact, from what I see, the only difference between Small and Medium is that Small creatures cannot wield certain weapons or have to wield them two-handed. So that's one penalty and no bonuses.)</p><p></p><p>I have cobbled together some rules for this specific instance, which allow the Small halfling to Squeeze behind the partial-cover-providing tree and thus gain superior cover (although the penalties of Squeezing still apply, so I doubt that will be too popular). But then I considered the low wall.</p><p></p><p>The RC *specifically* states that "crouching behind a low wall" provides partial cover. What, even for a Small halfling?</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts, anyone?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DNH, post: 5699702, member: 63615"] Okay so here's the thing, we have a halfling rogue who wants to use stealth to go hidden and attack with combat advantage/sneak attack. The battlefield is an outdoors location in full daylight, with a few trees and bushes about. The halfling (Pansy) runs up behind a tree and tries to hide. Sorry, say I, the tree provides only partial cover. "But I am Small!" says Pansy. "I am only 3' 8"!" It is a fair point but it looks to me that the rules do not provide for creature size and cover. I mean, the thing about drawing imaginary lines covers it somewhat when considering Large and larger creatures but since Small and Medium creatures occupy the same space, there is no difference between them for cover. That can't be right, can it? (In fact, from what I see, the only difference between Small and Medium is that Small creatures cannot wield certain weapons or have to wield them two-handed. So that's one penalty and no bonuses.) I have cobbled together some rules for this specific instance, which allow the Small halfling to Squeeze behind the partial-cover-providing tree and thus gain superior cover (although the penalties of Squeezing still apply, so I doubt that will be too popular). But then I considered the low wall. The RC *specifically* states that "crouching behind a low wall" provides partial cover. What, even for a Small halfling? Any thoughts, anyone? [/QUOTE]
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