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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 1839552" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p>I do not agree. I'm speaking about separating beasts in two types because I want to have different features for preys and for predators. Subtypes and templates (the "augmented thingie" subtype) can modify traits, but do not touch on features. An iron golem with the living construct subtype would still have the same HDs, the same base attack bonus and base save bonuses. An iron golem with the pseudonatural template (I do not care if it's not supposed to apply to constructs, pseudonatural things are not supposed to exist to begin with) will likewise keep his HDs, hp, BAB, and saves.</p><p></p><p>And these are the things I want to change.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The closest the beast is from us, the subtler the nuances we make are. We are mammalians, so a mammalian subtype is not enough -- you'll need equine, canine, feline, cetacean, etc. subtypes as well. Birds, frogs, snakes, and fish are other kinds of vertebrates, so we can stop at this level of detail. Jellyfish, snails and squids aren't vertebrate, so we can stop at "invertebrate".</p><p></p><p>You can compare it with people and their home. Let's take two (fictional) cities, Smallburg and Littletown, located in the same (fictional, too) region/federed state of Petitelandia, in the (fictional again) country/federal state of Minutia. </p><p>Mr John Smith, who lives in Smallburg, will refer to his girlfriend Ms Jean Schmidt, who lives in another quarter of Smallburg, as a Smallburgese of that other quarter. </p><p>His coworker Mr Jack Blake, lives in Littletown, will be a Littletownian, and John Smith will not care about in which quarter or district of Littletown precisely Blake's house is.</p><p>His CEO lives somewhere in South Diminutivia. John Smith doesn't care that his boss' actual city is named Rathernotbigville, the CEO is a Southern Diminutivian, not a Rathernotbigvillager.</p><p>There's talk of mergings between John Smith's company and another from Sotiny, another country. The representative of that other company, Finework, is a Sotiniese. John Smith utterly doesn't care which region of Sotiny this stranger is, and even less of which city in that region, which quarter in that city, which street in that quarter, and so on.</p><p>Saying "he's a Sotiniese" is all that John Smith needs to define the negociator.</p><p></p><p>The farthest away from you, the broader your brush. That's why equine, feline, avian, reptilian; but not mammalian, viperine, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 1839552, member: 1328"] I do not agree. I'm speaking about separating beasts in two types because I want to have different features for preys and for predators. Subtypes and templates (the "augmented thingie" subtype) can modify traits, but do not touch on features. An iron golem with the living construct subtype would still have the same HDs, the same base attack bonus and base save bonuses. An iron golem with the pseudonatural template (I do not care if it's not supposed to apply to constructs, pseudonatural things are not supposed to exist to begin with) will likewise keep his HDs, hp, BAB, and saves. And these are the things I want to change. The closest the beast is from us, the subtler the nuances we make are. We are mammalians, so a mammalian subtype is not enough -- you'll need equine, canine, feline, cetacean, etc. subtypes as well. Birds, frogs, snakes, and fish are other kinds of vertebrates, so we can stop at this level of detail. Jellyfish, snails and squids aren't vertebrate, so we can stop at "invertebrate". You can compare it with people and their home. Let's take two (fictional) cities, Smallburg and Littletown, located in the same (fictional, too) region/federed state of Petitelandia, in the (fictional again) country/federal state of Minutia. Mr John Smith, who lives in Smallburg, will refer to his girlfriend Ms Jean Schmidt, who lives in another quarter of Smallburg, as a Smallburgese of that other quarter. His coworker Mr Jack Blake, lives in Littletown, will be a Littletownian, and John Smith will not care about in which quarter or district of Littletown precisely Blake's house is. His CEO lives somewhere in South Diminutivia. John Smith doesn't care that his boss' actual city is named Rathernotbigville, the CEO is a Southern Diminutivian, not a Rathernotbigvillager. There's talk of mergings between John Smith's company and another from Sotiny, another country. The representative of that other company, Finework, is a Sotiniese. John Smith utterly doesn't care which region of Sotiny this stranger is, and even less of which city in that region, which quarter in that city, which street in that quarter, and so on. Saying "he's a Sotiniese" is all that John Smith needs to define the negociator. The farthest away from you, the broader your brush. That's why equine, feline, avian, reptilian; but not mammalian, viperine, etc. [/QUOTE]
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