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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 6301606" data-attributes="member: 20805">Well yes and no. For a non-Orc to start as a Berserker, they have to take Barbarian III to qualify, and it makes sense to take a Starter that adds STR to swing that heavy axe around better.. which means Primitive or Farmhand.&nbsp;So even when more traditions are available, your Sylvan Elf Berserker starting characters are going to be very cookie cutter, outside of skills and weapon choices.But perhaps you are right, and in last nights game I ended up having the players use the races as written due to an unexpected level of information overload. {Three chose to play as spellcasters}. Maybe a better answer would be to turn the sub-races into starting careers, each with the added benefit of being 'full blooded' in that race, and tweak the races and starting careers to be more equal in respect to stat adds.That way we could have the Elf raised by a Dwarven clan as [Elf] + [Mountain Dwarf], and can easily add varieties of dark elves [D.E. Warrior][D.E. Matron][D.E. Noble], etc... along with varieties of the other races.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 6301606, member: 20805"] Well yes and no. For a non-Orc to start as a Berserker, they have to take Barbarian III to qualify, and it makes sense to take a Starter that adds STR to swing that heavy axe around better.. which means Primitive or Farmhand. So even when more traditions are available, your Sylvan Elf Berserker starting characters are going to be very cookie cutter, outside of skills and weapon choices. But perhaps you are right, and in last nights game I ended up having the players use the races as written due to an unexpected level of information overload. {Three chose to play as spellcasters}. Maybe a better answer would be to turn the sub-races into starting careers, each with the added benefit of being 'full blooded' in that race, and tweak the races and starting careers to be more equal in respect to stat adds. That way we could have the Elf raised by a Dwarven clan as [Elf] + [Mountain Dwarf], and can easily add varieties of dark elves [D.E. Warrior][D.E. Matron][D.E. Noble], etc... along with varieties of the other races. [/QUOTE]

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