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<blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 2813465" data-attributes="member: 1264"><p><strong>[recovering this thread from Google and Yahoo caches...]</strong></p><p></p><p> Knight Otu</p><p>LEW Judge and PbP Mod</p><p> </p><p>Knight Otu's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Germany</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (11:49 PM)</p><p>Posts: 8,837</p><p></p><p>My Bookshelf</p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Why you still soft-bump?</p><p></p><p>On an unrelated note, I sent you a mail yesterday, but I just saw a failure notice email in my spam folder (don't ask my why it'd end up there). I presume you did not receive it, them?</p><p>__________________</p><p>Omygod, they killed Polly!</p><p>LEW Judge;When e-mailing me about LEW, make sure to include a LEW tag in the subject line</p><p>Semabin ai Harudan, currently involved in the quest of the Ransom for Retirement.</p><p>Ashnar, currently in the Assassin's Knot.</p><p>Knight Otu is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Knight Otu</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to Knight Otu</p><p>Send email to Knight Otu</p><p>Find More Posts by Knight Otu</p><p>Add Knight Otu to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Knight Otu to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-01-06, 04:05 PM #6</p><p>Knight Otu</p><p>LEW Judge and PbP Mod</p><p> </p><p>Knight Otu's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Germany</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (11:49 PM)</p><p>Posts: 8,837</p><p></p><p>My Bookshelf</p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Okay, I guess now I know why. I re-sent it.</p><p>Knight Otu is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Knight Otu</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to Knight Otu</p><p>Send email to Knight Otu</p><p>Find More Posts by Knight Otu</p><p>Add Knight Otu to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Knight Otu to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-01-06, 04:11 PM #7</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Quote:</p><p>Originally Posted by Knight Otu</p><p>Why you still soft-bump?</p><p></p><p></p><p>to keep votes coming in until i'm ready to deal with the results.</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-04-06, 04:24 AM #8</p><p>Conaill</p><p>Registered User</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Alameda, CA</p><p>Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,078</p><p></p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Might as well close a few of these polls - some of them are pretty much a done deal:</p><p></p><p>Alignment: CN</p><p>Main attribute: Virtue/vice</p><p>Hit Dice: 4-6 (tie with 1-3, but there's many more votes for >6 than for <1)</p><p></p><p>You may also want to consider doing one big runoff poll with the top choices of the remaining polls. E.g.</p><p></p><p>Quote:</p><p>Which of these features should our Fey creature have?</p><p>[] Environment: Marsh</p><p>[] Environment: Hills</p><p>[] Environment: Urban</p><p>[] Size: Small</p><p>[] Size: Medium</p><p>[] 2 HD</p><p>[] 3 HD</p><p>[] 4 HD</p><p>[] 5 HD</p><p>[] Virtue/vice: do-gooder</p><p>[] Virtue/vice: wicked destroyer</p><p>[] Virtue/vice: maintains the balance in nature</p><p>__________________</p><p>Come join us in the Awakened Animals thread</p><p>Questions? Check the SRD, the online d20/D&D rules,</p><p>the Official D&D Game Rule FAQ, and Official D&D Errata.</p><p>Conaill is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Conaill</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Find More Posts by Conaill</p><p>Add Conaill to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Conaill to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-04-06, 04:29 AM #9</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>i don't have the ability to close polls anymore - even ones that i started.</p><p></p><p>however, i will probably work tonight on figuring out how the matchups went...</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-04-06, 04:35 AM #10</p><p>Conaill</p><p>Registered User</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Alameda, CA</p><p>Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,078</p><p></p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Well, I didn't so much mean actually closing them, rather than just calling them done and moving on...</p><p>Conaill is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Conaill</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Find More Posts by Conaill</p><p>Add Conaill to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Conaill to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-04-06, 06:32 AM #11</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>actually, i just realized that i can close a poll - by closing the thread. i have done that with three of the polls: alignment and environment will remain open for the moment, hoping for a few more votes to break some of the ties before moving on. for some of these results, i may simply pick and choose what to go with.</p><p></p><p>Let's extrapolate 5 creatures, given the current poll results, shall we?</p><p></p><p>Creature #1</p><p>Hit Dice: (1-3 or 4-6)</p><p>Alignment: Chaotic Neutral</p><p>Main Attribute: Virtue/Vice</p><p>Environment: Marsh</p><p>Size: Medium</p><p></p><p>Creature #2</p><p>Hit Dice: (1-3 or 4-6)</p><p>Alignment: (LN, N, or CE)</p><p>Main Attribute: Animal/vegetable/minerals</p><p>Environment: (Hills or urban)</p><p>Size: Small</p><p></p><p>Creature #3</p><p>Hit Dice: 7-9</p><p>Alignment: (LN, N, or CE)</p><p>Main Attribute: (magic/psionics or another creature type)</p><p>Environment: (Hills or urban)</p><p>Size: (Tiny or Large)</p><p></p><p>Creature #4</p><p>Hit Dice: 10-12</p><p>Alignment: (LN, N, or CE)</p><p>Main Attribute: (magic/psionics or another creature type)</p><p>Environment: (desert or plains)</p><p>Size: (Tiny or Large)</p><p></p><p>Creature #5</p><p>Hit Dice: (16-18 or 22+)</p><p>Alignment: (NG, CG, NE)</p><p>Main Attribute: Stellar spirit - sun, moon, planets, stars, zodiac</p><p>Environment: (desert or plains)</p><p>Size: Huge</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-04-06, 07:20 AM #12</p><p>Conaill</p><p>Registered User</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Alameda, CA</p><p>Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,078</p><p></p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Ah - I forgot you were going to do several fey at the same time.</p><p></p><p>So - how do you plan to continue with this? Seems like you'd need to eliminate some of those "OR's" from your 5 creatures before we can move on to flesh them out further. First of all, you can eliminate some of the options by linking HD to size. So you would get:</p><p></p><p>Creature #1</p><p>Hit Dice: 4-6</p><p>Size: Medium</p><p></p><p>Creature #2</p><p>Hit Dice: 1-3</p><p>Size: Small</p><p></p><p>Creature #3</p><p>Hit Dice: 7-9</p><p>Size: Tiny</p><p></p><p>Creature #4</p><p>Hit Dice: 10-12</p><p>Size: Large</p><p></p><p>Creature #5</p><p>Hit Dice: (16-18 or 22+)</p><p>Size: Huge</p><p>Last edited by Conaill : 01-04-06 at 07:30 AM.</p><p>Conaill is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Conaill</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Find More Posts by Conaill</p><p>Add Conaill to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Conaill to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-04-06, 06:15 PM #13</p><p>Shade</p><p>Monster Junkie</p><p> </p><p>Shade's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Plane of Shadow</p><p>Last Seen: Today (02:53 AM)</p><p>Posts: 6,057</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>#5 is my kinda critter.</p><p>Shade is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Shade</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to Shade</p><p>Find More Posts by Shade</p><p>Add Shade to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Shade to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-04-06, 10:49 PM #14</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>actually coniall, that was exactly how i was going to arrange that.</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-05-06, 01:49 AM #15</p><p>Conaill</p><p>Registered User</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Alameda, CA</p><p>Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,078</p><p></p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Quote:</p><p>Originally Posted by Shade</p><p>#5 is my kinda critter.</p><p></p><p>Hmm... a huge zodiac creature...</p><p></p><p>During a clear new moon, it is said that the astrological creatures of the zodiac descend upon the plains to dance the dance of ages.</p><p></p><p>Since many of the animals corresponding to signs of the zodiac already have stats in D&D, you could even make this one a template. Call it "Avatar of the Zodiac" or something: take the base animal (e.g. Lion), enlarge it to size Huge and color it pitch black, with stars as eyes. A bit rough, but you get the idea...</p><p></p><p>Alternatively, you could design a base creature, and have a table with 1-2 additional abilities for each different sign. Would be much easier to balance that way...</p><p>Conaill is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Conaill</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Find More Posts by Conaill</p><p>Add Conaill to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Conaill to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-05-06, 02:01 AM #16</p><p>demiurge1138</p><p>Classic Style!</p><p> </p><p>demiurge1138's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Sep 2002</p><p>Location: California</p><p>Last Seen: Today (06:10 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,774</p><p></p><p>My Bookshelf</p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>I like that second idea. The shape of the Zodiacan would be dependant on what sign they were in, with mostly the same stats.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and BOZ, I know that you're intending to do all the fey by poll, but I have an urban, CE, 10 HD, medium fey kicking around my hard-drive. It got cut from my last Dragon submission, and I'm really proud of 'im. If I could slip it into this discussion/statting somehow, that'd be cool. If not, I'll probably post it in Homebrews.</p><p></p><p>Demiurge out.</p><p>__________________</p><p>Villain- A Haiku by Demiurge</p><p>The heroes await.</p><p>They have come this far only</p><p>To die. Ha ha ha.</p><p>Quote:</p><p>Originally Posted by Clueless</p><p>Prismatic Wall. - Because ships don't have brakes.</p><p>demiurge1138 is online now Reply With Quote</p><p>demiurge1138</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send email to demiurge1138</p><p>Find More Posts by demiurge1138</p><p>Add demiurge1138 to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add demiurge1138 to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-05-06, 02:13 AM #17</p><p>Conaill</p><p>Registered User</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Alameda, CA</p><p>Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,078</p><p></p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Quote:</p><p>Originally Posted by demiurge1138</p><p>Oh, and BOZ, I know that you're intending to do all the fey by poll, but I have an urban, CE, 10 HD, medium fey kicking around my hard-drive. It got cut from my last Dragon submission, and I'm really proud of 'im. If I could slip it into this discussion/statting somehow, that'd be cool. If not, I'll probably post it in Homebrews.</p><p></p><p>Any chance you could make it Large and shoehorn it into #4?</p><p></p><p>Heck, if we like it well enough, we could just have a poll on whether or now we want to adopt it for #4, or continue polling for that one...</p><p>Conaill is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Conaill</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Find More Posts by Conaill</p><p>Add Conaill to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Conaill to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-05-06, 02:40 AM #18</p><p>demiurge1138</p><p>Classic Style!</p><p> </p><p>demiurge1138's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Sep 2002</p><p>Location: California</p><p>Last Seen: Today (06:10 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,774</p><p></p><p>My Bookshelf</p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Quote:</p><p>Originally Posted by Conaill</p><p>Any chance you could make it Large and shoehorn it into #4?</p><p></p><p>Heck, if we like it well enough, we could just have a poll on whether or now we want to adopt it for #4, or continue polling for that one...</p><p></p><p>It's a springheel, taken from the British legend of Springheel Jack, murderous wicked creatures that delight in leaping upon random folks and terrorizing them with iron claws and fiery spittle. It was Medium in the stories (because its appearance is mostly human), but I am willing to comprimise. With BOZ's permission, I can post it as it stands in this thread.</p><p></p><p>Demiurge out.</p><p>demiurge1138 is online now Reply With Quote</p><p>demiurge1138</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send email to demiurge1138</p><p>Find More Posts by demiurge1138</p><p>Add demiurge1138 to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add demiurge1138 to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-05-06, 02:56 AM #19</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>how about this: we can piggyback your fey critter into whatever query i construct before sending it in. you would of course get authorship credit, as knight otu did for MotM. go ahead and post it in homebrews so it won't get lost; we will pick it up later when/if it's needed. also, more than one Dragon designer has suggested that "leftover" monsters are likely to appear in CCV this year, so your contribution may not be needed if that is the case.</p><p></p><p>besides that, we will be creating 5 new creatures with these polls, and adding those along with any fey conversions we like in the query.</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-05-06, 03:15 AM #20</p><p>demiurge1138</p><p>Classic Style!</p><p> </p><p>demiurge1138's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Sep 2002</p><p>Location: California</p><p>Last Seen: Today (06:10 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,774</p><p></p><p>My Bookshelf</p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Quote:</p><p>Originally Posted by BOZ</p><p>go ahead and post it in homebrews so it won't get lost; we will pick it up later when/if it's needed. also, more than one Dragon designer has suggested that "leftover" monsters are likely to appear in CCV this year, so your contribution may not be needed if that is the case.</p><p></p><p>No, no, that's where the rest of that article is ending up. The query was "monsters from the real world". The Jersey Devil, sasquatch, mammoth octopus and springheel didn't make the cut. The other two did.</p><p></p><p>I'll post him in Homebrews.</p><p></p><p>Demiurge out.</p><p>demiurge1138 is online now Reply With Quote</p><p>demiurge1138</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send email to demiurge1138</p><p>Find More Posts by demiurge1138</p><p>Add demiurge1138 to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add demiurge1138 to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-05-06, 07:43 AM #21</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>oh... neat then! hey you never know, if you pass something through a second time you might just win out.</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-06-06, 11:06 PM #22</p><p>Conaill</p><p>Registered User</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Alameda, CA</p><p>Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,078</p><p></p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>So, how do we go from here? Polls for each of the 5 critters separately? We can always carry over some of the second-place options from a poll to the poll for the next critter in line...</p><p>Conaill is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Conaill</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Find More Posts by Conaill</p><p>Add Conaill to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Conaill to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-06-06, 11:08 PM #23</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>the dynamics have shifted again!</p><p></p><p>Creature #1</p><p>Hit Dice: 4-6</p><p>Alignment: Chaotic Neutral</p><p>Main Attribute: Virtue/Vice</p><p>Environment: Marsh</p><p>Size: Medium</p><p></p><p>Creature #2</p><p>Hit Dice: 1-3</p><p>Alignment: Chaotic Good</p><p>Main Attribute: Mineral</p><p>Environment: Urban</p><p>Size: Small</p><p></p><p>Creature #3</p><p>Hit Dice: 7-9</p><p>Alignment: Lawful Neutral</p><p>Main Attribute: Magic</p><p>Environment: Hills</p><p>Size: Tiny</p><p></p><p>Creature #4</p><p>Hit Dice: 10-12</p><p>Alignment: Chaotic Evil</p><p>Main Attribute: Another creature type (Elemental Earth)</p><p>Environment: Aquatic</p><p>Size: Large</p><p></p><p>Creature #5</p><p>Hit Dice: 16-18</p><p>Alignment: Neutral</p><p>Main Attribute: Stellar spirit - sun, moon, planets, stars, zodiac</p><p>Environment: Arctic</p><p>Size: Huge</p><p>Last edited by BOZ : 01-25-06 at 04:37 AM.</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-11-06, 03:52 AM #24</p><p>Conaill</p><p>Registered User</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Alameda, CA</p><p>Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM)</p><p>Posts: 3,078</p><p></p><p>My Wishlist</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>You know, BOZ... I can understand doing a poll to see which 5 out of a large range of options people like best. And I could understand doing additional polls to figure out how people want to combine those options.</p><p></p><p>But the current polls you're running don't really make sense to me. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish... do you want creature #1 to be some unholy combination of all the favorite features, regardless of how well they actually fit together, and #5 an equally mismatched combination of all the second (or rather 5th) rate features? Wouldn't #5 wind up being sort of a "garbage heap" creature - just throwing together all the features hardly anybody really wants?</p><p></p><p>It's an interesting experiment, but not really a mechanism that is likely to lead to creatures people will actually *like*.</p><p></p><p>Don't want to poop on your party or anything... just felt I needed to point that out before we do another 30-40 polls along the same lines...</p><p>Conaill is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Conaill</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Find More Posts by Conaill</p><p>Add Conaill to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Conaill to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-11-06, 11:36 PM #25</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>are you questioning my brilliant madness? off to the gulag with you!</p><p></p><p>Quote:</p><p>Originally Posted by Conaill</p><p>do you want creature #1 to be some unholy combination of all the favorite features, regardless of how well they actually fit together, and #5 an equally mismatched combination of all the second (or rather 5th) rate features? Wouldn't #5 wind up being sort of a "garbage heap" creature - just throwing together all the features hardly anybody really wants?</p><p></p><p></p><p>YES! and my frankenstein fey shall destroy all who oppose them!</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-12-06, 02:36 AM #26</p><p>Shade</p><p>Monster Junkie</p><p> </p><p>Shade's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Plane of Shadow</p><p>Last Seen: Today (02:53 AM)</p><p>Posts: 6,057</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Frankenfey!</p><p></p><p>Boo Faerie!</p><p></p><p>Count Choculixie!</p><p>Shade is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>Shade</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to Shade</p><p>Find More Posts by Shade</p><p>Add Shade to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add Shade to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-15-06, 06:20 AM #27</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>now that the skeleton/groundwork is laid down, the most popular options for each one can be decided. i think you can make something good out of any idea, and seemingly random things can yeild combinations you would not have otherwise thought of. besides, randomness has always been a big part of D&D - why the dice, if not?</p><p>BOZ is offline Reply With Quote</p><p>BOZ</p><p>View Public Profile</p><p>Send a private message to BOZ</p><p>Send email to BOZ</p><p>Visit BOZ's homepage!</p><p>Find More Posts by BOZ</p><p>Add BOZ to Your Buddy List</p><p>Add BOZ to your ignore list</p><p>Old 01-22-06, 03:29 AM #28</p><p>BOZ</p><p>Creature Cataloguer</p><p> </p><p>BOZ's Avatar</p><p> </p><p>Join Date: Jan 2002</p><p>Location: Chicago, IL</p><p>Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM)</p><p>Posts: 14,949</p><p></p><p></p><p>Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ</p><p></p><p> </p><p>OK, narrowing down #4 some more, but i will start a thread for discussion on #1 shortly...</p><p></p><p><strong>[end recovery]</strong></p><p></p><p>Hey BOZ, do you need any help recovering these threads from the Google cache? I see at least #4 and #5 are still in there...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Conaill, post: 2813465, member: 1264"] [b][recovering this thread from Google and Yahoo caches...][/b] Knight Otu LEW Judge and PbP Mod Knight Otu's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Last Seen: Yesterday (11:49 PM) Posts: 8,837 My Bookshelf My Wishlist Why you still soft-bump? On an unrelated note, I sent you a mail yesterday, but I just saw a failure notice email in my spam folder (don't ask my why it'd end up there). I presume you did not receive it, them? __________________ Omygod, they killed Polly! LEW Judge;When e-mailing me about LEW, make sure to include a LEW tag in the subject line Semabin ai Harudan, currently involved in the quest of the Ransom for Retirement. Ashnar, currently in the Assassin's Knot. Knight Otu is offline Reply With Quote Knight Otu View Public Profile Send a private message to Knight Otu Send email to Knight Otu Find More Posts by Knight Otu Add Knight Otu to Your Buddy List Add Knight Otu to your ignore list Old 01-01-06, 04:05 PM #6 Knight Otu LEW Judge and PbP Mod Knight Otu's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Last Seen: Yesterday (11:49 PM) Posts: 8,837 My Bookshelf My Wishlist Okay, I guess now I know why. I re-sent it. Knight Otu is offline Reply With Quote Knight Otu View Public Profile Send a private message to Knight Otu Send email to Knight Otu Find More Posts by Knight Otu Add Knight Otu to Your Buddy List Add Knight Otu to your ignore list Old 01-01-06, 04:11 PM #7 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ Quote: Originally Posted by Knight Otu Why you still soft-bump? to keep votes coming in until i'm ready to deal with the results. BOZ is offline Reply With Quote BOZ View Public Profile Send a private message to BOZ Send email to BOZ Visit BOZ's homepage! Find More Posts by BOZ Add BOZ to Your Buddy List Add BOZ to your ignore list Old 01-04-06, 04:24 AM #8 Conaill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alameda, CA Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM) Posts: 3,078 My Wishlist Might as well close a few of these polls - some of them are pretty much a done deal: Alignment: CN Main attribute: Virtue/vice Hit Dice: 4-6 (tie with 1-3, but there's many more votes for >6 than for <1) You may also want to consider doing one big runoff poll with the top choices of the remaining polls. E.g. Quote: Which of these features should our Fey creature have? [] Environment: Marsh [] Environment: Hills [] Environment: Urban [] Size: Small [] Size: Medium [] 2 HD [] 3 HD [] 4 HD [] 5 HD [] Virtue/vice: do-gooder [] Virtue/vice: wicked destroyer [] Virtue/vice: maintains the balance in nature __________________ Come join us in the Awakened Animals thread Questions? Check the SRD, the online d20/D&D rules, the Official D&D Game Rule FAQ, and Official D&D Errata. Conaill is offline Reply With Quote Conaill View Public Profile Find More Posts by Conaill Add Conaill to Your Buddy List Add Conaill to your ignore list Old 01-04-06, 04:29 AM #9 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ i don't have the ability to close polls anymore - even ones that i started. however, i will probably work tonight on figuring out how the matchups went... BOZ is offline Reply With Quote BOZ View Public Profile Send a private message to BOZ Send email to BOZ Visit BOZ's homepage! Find More Posts by BOZ Add BOZ to Your Buddy List Add BOZ to your ignore list Old 01-04-06, 04:35 AM #10 Conaill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alameda, CA Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM) Posts: 3,078 My Wishlist Well, I didn't so much mean actually closing them, rather than just calling them done and moving on... Conaill is offline Reply With Quote Conaill View Public Profile Find More Posts by Conaill Add Conaill to Your Buddy List Add Conaill to your ignore list Old 01-04-06, 06:32 AM #11 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ actually, i just realized that i can close a poll - by closing the thread. i have done that with three of the polls: alignment and environment will remain open for the moment, hoping for a few more votes to break some of the ties before moving on. for some of these results, i may simply pick and choose what to go with. Let's extrapolate 5 creatures, given the current poll results, shall we? Creature #1 Hit Dice: (1-3 or 4-6) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Main Attribute: Virtue/Vice Environment: Marsh Size: Medium Creature #2 Hit Dice: (1-3 or 4-6) Alignment: (LN, N, or CE) Main Attribute: Animal/vegetable/minerals Environment: (Hills or urban) Size: Small Creature #3 Hit Dice: 7-9 Alignment: (LN, N, or CE) Main Attribute: (magic/psionics or another creature type) Environment: (Hills or urban) Size: (Tiny or Large) Creature #4 Hit Dice: 10-12 Alignment: (LN, N, or CE) Main Attribute: (magic/psionics or another creature type) Environment: (desert or plains) Size: (Tiny or Large) Creature #5 Hit Dice: (16-18 or 22+) Alignment: (NG, CG, NE) Main Attribute: Stellar spirit - sun, moon, planets, stars, zodiac Environment: (desert or plains) Size: Huge BOZ is offline Reply With Quote BOZ View Public Profile Send a private message to BOZ Send email to BOZ Visit BOZ's homepage! Find More Posts by BOZ Add BOZ to Your Buddy List Add BOZ to your ignore list Old 01-04-06, 07:20 AM #12 Conaill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alameda, CA Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM) Posts: 3,078 My Wishlist Ah - I forgot you were going to do several fey at the same time. So - how do you plan to continue with this? Seems like you'd need to eliminate some of those "OR's" from your 5 creatures before we can move on to flesh them out further. First of all, you can eliminate some of the options by linking HD to size. So you would get: Creature #1 Hit Dice: 4-6 Size: Medium Creature #2 Hit Dice: 1-3 Size: Small Creature #3 Hit Dice: 7-9 Size: Tiny Creature #4 Hit Dice: 10-12 Size: Large Creature #5 Hit Dice: (16-18 or 22+) Size: Huge Last edited by Conaill : 01-04-06 at 07:30 AM. Conaill is offline Reply With Quote Conaill View Public Profile Find More Posts by Conaill Add Conaill to Your Buddy List Add Conaill to your ignore list Old 01-04-06, 06:15 PM #13 Shade Monster Junkie Shade's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Plane of Shadow Last Seen: Today (02:53 AM) Posts: 6,057 #5 is my kinda critter. Shade is offline Reply With Quote Shade View Public Profile Send a private message to Shade Find More Posts by Shade Add Shade to Your Buddy List Add Shade to your ignore list Old 01-04-06, 10:49 PM #14 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ actually coniall, that was exactly how i was going to arrange that. BOZ is offline Reply With Quote BOZ View Public Profile Send a private message to BOZ Send email to BOZ Visit BOZ's homepage! Find More Posts by BOZ Add BOZ to Your Buddy List Add BOZ to your ignore list Old 01-05-06, 01:49 AM #15 Conaill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alameda, CA Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM) Posts: 3,078 My Wishlist Quote: Originally Posted by Shade #5 is my kinda critter. Hmm... a huge zodiac creature... During a clear new moon, it is said that the astrological creatures of the zodiac descend upon the plains to dance the dance of ages. Since many of the animals corresponding to signs of the zodiac already have stats in D&D, you could even make this one a template. Call it "Avatar of the Zodiac" or something: take the base animal (e.g. Lion), enlarge it to size Huge and color it pitch black, with stars as eyes. A bit rough, but you get the idea... Alternatively, you could design a base creature, and have a table with 1-2 additional abilities for each different sign. Would be much easier to balance that way... Conaill is offline Reply With Quote Conaill View Public Profile Find More Posts by Conaill Add Conaill to Your Buddy List Add Conaill to your ignore list Old 01-05-06, 02:01 AM #16 demiurge1138 Classic Style! demiurge1138's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Last Seen: Today (06:10 AM) Posts: 3,774 My Bookshelf My Wishlist I like that second idea. The shape of the Zodiacan would be dependant on what sign they were in, with mostly the same stats. Oh, and BOZ, I know that you're intending to do all the fey by poll, but I have an urban, CE, 10 HD, medium fey kicking around my hard-drive. It got cut from my last Dragon submission, and I'm really proud of 'im. If I could slip it into this discussion/statting somehow, that'd be cool. If not, I'll probably post it in Homebrews. Demiurge out. __________________ Villain- A Haiku by Demiurge The heroes await. They have come this far only To die. Ha ha ha. Quote: Originally Posted by Clueless Prismatic Wall. - Because ships don't have brakes. demiurge1138 is online now Reply With Quote demiurge1138 View Public Profile Send email to demiurge1138 Find More Posts by demiurge1138 Add demiurge1138 to Your Buddy List Add demiurge1138 to your ignore list Old 01-05-06, 02:13 AM #17 Conaill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alameda, CA Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM) Posts: 3,078 My Wishlist Quote: Originally Posted by demiurge1138 Oh, and BOZ, I know that you're intending to do all the fey by poll, but I have an urban, CE, 10 HD, medium fey kicking around my hard-drive. It got cut from my last Dragon submission, and I'm really proud of 'im. If I could slip it into this discussion/statting somehow, that'd be cool. If not, I'll probably post it in Homebrews. Any chance you could make it Large and shoehorn it into #4? Heck, if we like it well enough, we could just have a poll on whether or now we want to adopt it for #4, or continue polling for that one... Conaill is offline Reply With Quote Conaill View Public Profile Find More Posts by Conaill Add Conaill to Your Buddy List Add Conaill to your ignore list Old 01-05-06, 02:40 AM #18 demiurge1138 Classic Style! demiurge1138's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Last Seen: Today (06:10 AM) Posts: 3,774 My Bookshelf My Wishlist Quote: Originally Posted by Conaill Any chance you could make it Large and shoehorn it into #4? Heck, if we like it well enough, we could just have a poll on whether or now we want to adopt it for #4, or continue polling for that one... It's a springheel, taken from the British legend of Springheel Jack, murderous wicked creatures that delight in leaping upon random folks and terrorizing them with iron claws and fiery spittle. It was Medium in the stories (because its appearance is mostly human), but I am willing to comprimise. With BOZ's permission, I can post it as it stands in this thread. Demiurge out. demiurge1138 is online now Reply With Quote demiurge1138 View Public Profile Send email to demiurge1138 Find More Posts by demiurge1138 Add demiurge1138 to Your Buddy List Add demiurge1138 to your ignore list Old 01-05-06, 02:56 AM #19 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ how about this: we can piggyback your fey critter into whatever query i construct before sending it in. you would of course get authorship credit, as knight otu did for MotM. go ahead and post it in homebrews so it won't get lost; we will pick it up later when/if it's needed. also, more than one Dragon designer has suggested that "leftover" monsters are likely to appear in CCV this year, so your contribution may not be needed if that is the case. besides that, we will be creating 5 new creatures with these polls, and adding those along with any fey conversions we like in the query. 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Demiurge out. demiurge1138 is online now Reply With Quote demiurge1138 View Public Profile Send email to demiurge1138 Find More Posts by demiurge1138 Add demiurge1138 to Your Buddy List Add demiurge1138 to your ignore list Old 01-05-06, 07:43 AM #21 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ oh... neat then! hey you never know, if you pass something through a second time you might just win out. BOZ is offline Reply With Quote BOZ View Public Profile Send a private message to BOZ Send email to BOZ Visit BOZ's homepage! Find More Posts by BOZ Add BOZ to Your Buddy List Add BOZ to your ignore list Old 01-06-06, 11:06 PM #22 Conaill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alameda, CA Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM) Posts: 3,078 My Wishlist So, how do we go from here? Polls for each of the 5 critters separately? We can always carry over some of the second-place options from a poll to the poll for the next critter in line... Conaill is offline Reply With Quote Conaill View Public Profile Find More Posts by Conaill Add Conaill to Your Buddy List Add Conaill to your ignore list Old 01-06-06, 11:08 PM #23 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ the dynamics have shifted again! Creature #1 Hit Dice: 4-6 Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Main Attribute: Virtue/Vice Environment: Marsh Size: Medium Creature #2 Hit Dice: 1-3 Alignment: Chaotic Good Main Attribute: Mineral Environment: Urban Size: Small Creature #3 Hit Dice: 7-9 Alignment: Lawful Neutral Main Attribute: Magic Environment: Hills Size: Tiny Creature #4 Hit Dice: 10-12 Alignment: Chaotic Evil Main Attribute: Another creature type (Elemental Earth) Environment: Aquatic Size: Large Creature #5 Hit Dice: 16-18 Alignment: Neutral Main Attribute: Stellar spirit - sun, moon, planets, stars, zodiac Environment: Arctic Size: Huge Last edited by BOZ : 01-25-06 at 04:37 AM. BOZ is offline Reply With Quote BOZ View Public Profile Send a private message to BOZ Send email to BOZ Visit BOZ's homepage! Find More Posts by BOZ Add BOZ to Your Buddy List Add BOZ to your ignore list Old 01-11-06, 03:52 AM #24 Conaill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alameda, CA Last Seen: Today (01:31 AM) Posts: 3,078 My Wishlist You know, BOZ... I can understand doing a poll to see which 5 out of a large range of options people like best. And I could understand doing additional polls to figure out how people want to combine those options. But the current polls you're running don't really make sense to me. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish... do you want creature #1 to be some unholy combination of all the favorite features, regardless of how well they actually fit together, and #5 an equally mismatched combination of all the second (or rather 5th) rate features? Wouldn't #5 wind up being sort of a "garbage heap" creature - just throwing together all the features hardly anybody really wants? It's an interesting experiment, but not really a mechanism that is likely to lead to creatures people will actually *like*. Don't want to poop on your party or anything... just felt I needed to point that out before we do another 30-40 polls along the same lines... Conaill is offline Reply With Quote Conaill View Public Profile Find More Posts by Conaill Add Conaill to Your Buddy List Add Conaill to your ignore list Old 01-11-06, 11:36 PM #25 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ are you questioning my brilliant madness? off to the gulag with you! Quote: Originally Posted by Conaill do you want creature #1 to be some unholy combination of all the favorite features, regardless of how well they actually fit together, and #5 an equally mismatched combination of all the second (or rather 5th) rate features? Wouldn't #5 wind up being sort of a "garbage heap" creature - just throwing together all the features hardly anybody really wants? YES! and my frankenstein fey shall destroy all who oppose them! BOZ is offline Reply With Quote BOZ View Public Profile Send a private message to BOZ Send email to BOZ Visit BOZ's homepage! Find More Posts by BOZ Add BOZ to Your Buddy List Add BOZ to your ignore list Old 01-12-06, 02:36 AM #26 Shade Monster Junkie Shade's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Plane of Shadow Last Seen: Today (02:53 AM) Posts: 6,057 Frankenfey! Boo Faerie! Count Choculixie! Shade is offline Reply With Quote Shade View Public Profile Send a private message to Shade Find More Posts by Shade Add Shade to Your Buddy List Add Shade to your ignore list Old 01-15-06, 06:20 AM #27 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ now that the skeleton/groundwork is laid down, the most popular options for each one can be decided. i think you can make something good out of any idea, and seemingly random things can yeild combinations you would not have otherwise thought of. besides, randomness has always been a big part of D&D - why the dice, if not? BOZ is offline Reply With Quote BOZ View Public Profile Send a private message to BOZ Send email to BOZ Visit BOZ's homepage! Find More Posts by BOZ Add BOZ to Your Buddy List Add BOZ to your ignore list Old 01-22-06, 03:29 AM #28 BOZ Creature Cataloguer BOZ's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Last Seen: Yesterday (10:05 PM) Posts: 14,949 Send a message via AIM to BOZ Send a message via Yahoo to BOZ OK, narrowing down #4 some more, but i will start a thread for discussion on #1 shortly... [b][end recovery][/b] Hey BOZ, do you need any help recovering these threads from the Google cache? I see at least #4 and #5 are still in there... [/QUOTE]
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