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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Friend of the Dork" data-source="post: 5452061" data-attributes="member: 91954">Ah yes it could be indeed and it was almost what I hoped Dragonlance meant (when in fact he was just being unclear <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> ). The only drawback is that creatures with multiple same bonus attacks must still differentiate which die is the first rolled, or just roll one die before the other attacks. But would you keep the confirmation check? If you do, then the chances would be so small you might not even bother using fumbles at all on higher levels, while on low level the fumbles would be 5% of the attacks which is too high. Also while BAB is an example of skill at arms, having multiple attacks from other scources is not entirely that. Rapid shot allows you to shoot faster, not more accurately, and should not decrease the chance of fumbling (if anything the chance should INcrease). Same thing with Two-weapon or multiweapon fighting, or Flurry. Which is why I still prefer a confirmation system based on total attack bonus for the attack in question. Confirmation test for crits make sense - someone in heavy armor or extremely dodgy will be harder to hit a sensetive location. Not so with fumbles however, why would it be easier to stumble just because your foe has a shield and full plate? Thus I beleive Confirmation test for fumbles should be based on a set DC instead. 15 Seems to be the typical "challenging" test, and attack DC 15 is pretty much 50/50 for a first level warrior type. If you think this is too hard then you could set it at DC 10. That could still mean fumbling at low levels while would very quickly become impossible to fail. As an option you could always have 1 as automatic failure so that you COULD fumble at 20th level with 2 consecutive 1s.</blockquote>

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