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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ferghis" data-source="post: 5915744" data-attributes="member: 40483">If you're trying to use customer service as a source, you might as well use first edition initiative rules as a source. Seriously, put these in front of the DM: <a href="http://knights-n-knaves.com/dmprata/ADDICT.pdf" target="_blank">http://knights-n-knaves.com/dmprata/ADDICT.pdf</a>When s/he throws up his or her arms in frustration, explain that RPGs rules are long documents put together by several different people over a long period of time, and the language used occasionally strays from perfection. The intention of the rules in your case is to maximize all damage that would normally be rolled as a consequence of that hit, including power attack, warlock's curse, a magic weapon's (non-crit) extra damage power, or anything else that you could normally use with that hit. It's an easy intention to infer, and a simple rule to apply. Scrutinizing the documents like a cavillous academic is great fun for us crazies on the internet, but has dramatically diminishing returns at the gaming table.</blockquote>