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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8389337" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>Does anything matter? I am not being facetious here.</p><p></p><p>I don't want to continue harping on this too much; to me, as someone who has to be aware (in their day-to-day life) of <em>basic rhetoric</em>, this point is so banal and also so obvious that it is difficult to continue articulating it.</p><p></p><p>Rhetoric- the study of the construction and analysis of arguments, understanding that arguments are implicit in all forms of communication.</p><p></p><p>Once you get to that point, you have to understand the nature of an "argument," which is simply a "speaker" attempting to communicate something to an "audience." It can be oratory (a speech) or a performance (such as a play) or music or a work of art. Guernica has an argument as does Rothko's Seagram Murals, as does Bob Marley's Burning and Looting as does Nixon's Checkers speech.</p><p></p><p>So, in order to communicate effectively, we are always aware of certain audiences. Another easy example- what many people refer to (informally) as code-switching; when you change up the way you speak as you go from one setting to another; in effect, you are trying to make your communication more effective for your audience. Do you use the exact same speech patterns for your best friend, as you would if you selected to give a presentation for on live television? Or as the invited speaker at a graduation? Why or why not? Is it because you change depending on your audience?</p><p></p><p>Now, I already quoted some of the cast in 2016 explaining how they were approaching their performances; that they were used to making characters come alive for the unseen audience; this is the hallmark of effective communication- of effective performance. In other words, for them <em>not to change how they approach decisions</em> based upon their knowledge of the audience would not only be profoundly weird, it would also be antithetical to the very nature of their profession. That is not mutually exclusive with "playing the game," but I keep coming back to the same point- it is profoundly bizarre to me that people seem to think that talented performers <em>wouldn't take into account that there is an audience</em>. Not just bizarre, I am literally beyond understanding why people seem to insist this?</p><p></p><p>I can't imagine a greater insult to the people that make CR. It's not even a back-handed compliment; it's derogatory. I truly believe it's a great talent to make things look easy, to make the cast seem familiar and just like "people you're hanging out with," but that's exactly what it is- talent (and work).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can't speak for them. I will say this- it's a truism that people in <em>the Business </em>will project to others that everything is fine, even when it isn't. This has been true for so long that it's constantly lampooned; the concept of the Children's Television Star that was actually a jerk as soon as the camera stopped rolling was so ingrained that it was already tired before the <em>Simpsons</em> had Krusty.</p><p></p><p>I hope that they are all great friends and will always remain so; I am also sure that if they do have some disagreements, they won't be shown during the four hours of the livestream.</p><p></p><p>And I think that's something to think about as well; I have good friends. I play with good friends. Somehow, we can't seem to project that level of bonhomie every week for four hours.</p><p></p><p>That doesn't mean that they aren't friends, or it is fake; but I am sure they are cognizant of what is occurring, and chose to table disagreements until later. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course not. That's a profoundly weird thing to ask.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8389337, member: 7023840"] Does anything matter? I am not being facetious here. I don't want to continue harping on this too much; to me, as someone who has to be aware (in their day-to-day life) of [I]basic rhetoric[/I], this point is so banal and also so obvious that it is difficult to continue articulating it. Rhetoric- the study of the construction and analysis of arguments, understanding that arguments are implicit in all forms of communication. Once you get to that point, you have to understand the nature of an "argument," which is simply a "speaker" attempting to communicate something to an "audience." It can be oratory (a speech) or a performance (such as a play) or music or a work of art. Guernica has an argument as does Rothko's Seagram Murals, as does Bob Marley's Burning and Looting as does Nixon's Checkers speech. So, in order to communicate effectively, we are always aware of certain audiences. Another easy example- what many people refer to (informally) as code-switching; when you change up the way you speak as you go from one setting to another; in effect, you are trying to make your communication more effective for your audience. Do you use the exact same speech patterns for your best friend, as you would if you selected to give a presentation for on live television? Or as the invited speaker at a graduation? Why or why not? Is it because you change depending on your audience? Now, I already quoted some of the cast in 2016 explaining how they were approaching their performances; that they were used to making characters come alive for the unseen audience; this is the hallmark of effective communication- of effective performance. In other words, for them [I]not to change how they approach decisions[/I] based upon their knowledge of the audience would not only be profoundly weird, it would also be antithetical to the very nature of their profession. That is not mutually exclusive with "playing the game," but I keep coming back to the same point- it is profoundly bizarre to me that people seem to think that talented performers [I]wouldn't take into account that there is an audience[/I]. Not just bizarre, I am literally beyond understanding why people seem to insist this? I can't imagine a greater insult to the people that make CR. It's not even a back-handed compliment; it's derogatory. I truly believe it's a great talent to make things look easy, to make the cast seem familiar and just like "people you're hanging out with," but that's exactly what it is- talent (and work). I can't speak for them. I will say this- it's a truism that people in [I]the Business [/I]will project to others that everything is fine, even when it isn't. This has been true for so long that it's constantly lampooned; the concept of the Children's Television Star that was actually a jerk as soon as the camera stopped rolling was so ingrained that it was already tired before the [I]Simpsons[/I] had Krusty. I hope that they are all great friends and will always remain so; I am also sure that if they do have some disagreements, they won't be shown during the four hours of the livestream. And I think that's something to think about as well; I have good friends. I play with good friends. Somehow, we can't seem to project that level of bonhomie every week for four hours. That doesn't mean that they aren't friends, or it is fake; but I am sure they are cognizant of what is occurring, and chose to table disagreements until later. Of course not. That's a profoundly weird thing to ask. [/QUOTE]
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