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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 9672068" data-attributes="member: 48965">So it's heroic fantasy and yet the very title of the article claims it's a grimdark campaign. Not to mention another poster earlier who in reply to one of my posts claimed Daggerheart wasn't heroic fantasy. But if you're saying it's heroic fantasy with different coats of paint... well cool I accept that...but I feel like others weren't viewing or presenting it as such and perhaps that mistake is on me, Ill own it. Better to finish reading it and decide for myself.And look I get what you're saying about rules though I think new rules are new rules regardless of whether they came from the publisher, a 3pp or someone running the game they functionally serve the same purpose, modification of the base rules to achieve a result... but if you see a distinction between the 3 then fine I can accept that and move on. I think I believed campaign frameworks to be more than minor rules tweaks at first but realize that's exactly what they are and more for injecting mood or tone than actually changing the genre.</blockquote>