Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Critique my Ranger
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5528315" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>This is a second part of <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-discussion/304001-help-me-build-11th-level-ranger-please.html" target="_blank">this thread.</a> I started a new one because I have a basic template of the character, but wanted it critiqued with any further suggestions. </p><p></p><p><u><strong>Basic Concept</strong></u></p><p><u><strong></strong></u>I am creating an 11th level elf ranger that I want to be focused on the bow but with good melee skills; I'm willing to sacrifice some ranged options for a bit of melee capability. I originally envisioned two short swords, but am now intrigued with the idea of paired bastards swords. On first glance the idea of wielding two bastard swords seemed kind of silly, but now it just seems fun in a gonzo sort of way (especially since I discovered the <em>paired </em>magic weapon!) and it fits the concept of my character.</p><p></p><p>The basic idea of the character is a kind of accursed wanderer, sort of a hybrid of Aragorn and Legolas but with a darker edge. I haven't worked out the details of his background yet, but perhaps he was a prince or lord of his people but is exiled for some reason. </p><p></p><p><u><strong>The Dilemma - Hunter or Two-Blade?</strong></u></p><p><u><strong></strong></u>I originally imagined this character as taking Hunter Fighting Style - I </p><p>like the improved Quick Draw and it fits with the ranged first, melee second concept. However, the difference between using two short swords and two bastard swords is significant and with a paired magic weapon, the character wouldn't have to carry around two big swords. Plus I simply like the "kewl" factor of pulling out a bastard sword and then "splitting" it into two weapons; it tickles by 12-year old self! </p><p></p><p>Anyhow, the "dilemma" may not really be one, I'm just weighing the pros and cons of both. Quick Draw and Toughness even out because I want both anyways, so I'm just having to buy one or the other (even though the Hunter version has a slight extra perk). Basically I'm weighing the cost of spending a feat on Bastard Sword Proficiency and being able to use two big swords vs. having an extra feat to spend, but having to use two short swords. It seems almost like a no-brainer - I don't really lose out on anything ranged related by taking Two-Blade; I can still take Sharpshooter as a Paragon Path, for instance. Or am I missing something?</p><p></p><p><u><strong>Magic Items</strong></u></p><p><u><strong></strong></u>We use a slightly different method of buying magic items in our group for higher level characters: rather than three items, one of level, one below, and one above, plus money equal to one level lower, we just convert it all to monetary value and buy what we want. So I have 32,000 GP to work with.</p><p></p><p>What I am struggling with at this point is relatively minor: Do I want a +3 ranged weapon or +3 armor? It is hard to manage both, unless I skimp on another area - and I want to make sure I have at least +2 melee weapons and defenses. In the character below, I went for the Moonbow +3 as it is just cool - I like the reloading arrows and the high crit (I was originally thinking a Vicious Greatbow +3, but the Moonbow is more evocative). Anyhow, let me know if you think there is any way I can improve the item configuration.</p><p> </p><p>Below is what I have so far. Let me know if there is any fine-tuning that you would recommend:</p><p></p><p><strong>11th level Elf Ranger</strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong>Ranger Feature: </strong>Prime Shot</p><p> <strong>Fighting Style: </strong>Two-Blade Fighting Style</p><p> <strong>Paragon Path: </strong>Sharpshooter</p><p> </p><p><strong>ABILITIES: </strong>(starting 17, 14, 18, 11, 15, 11 - racial increases to DEX and WIS; increases to STR x2, DEX x2; paragon increase)</p><p></p><p>STR 20, CON 15, DEX 23, INT 12, WIS 18, CHA 12</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>AC: </strong>26</p><p><strong>Defenses</strong>: Fort 25, Ref 26, Will 23</p><p><strong>HP</strong>: 87</p><p></p><p><strong>SKILLS (Trained): </strong>Athletics, Dungeoneering, Nature, Perception, Stealth.</p><p><strong>FEATS: </strong>Toughness(from style), Master at Arms, Weapon Focus (Bow), Weapon Focus (Heavy Blades), Weapon Prof (Greatbow), Weapon Prof (Bastard Sword), Improved Defenses, Quick Draw.</p><p></p><p><strong>POWERS</strong></p><p><strong>At-Will: </strong>Fading Strike, Twin Strike</p><p><strong>Encounter:</strong> Evasive Strike, Disruptive Strike (3), Biting Volley (7)</p><p><strong>Daily: </strong>Split the Tree, Spitting-Cobra Stance (5), Attacks on the Run (9)</p><p><strong>Utility: </strong>Invigorating Stride (2), Healing Lore (6), Blood of the Fallen (10)</p><p></p><p><strong>MAGIC ITEMS</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Moonbow +3</em> (greatbow)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Paired Vicious Bastard Sword +2</em> (this is a combined magic item, as discussed in another thread)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Bracers of Archery</em> (heroic)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Medallion of Death Deferred +2</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Summoned Hide Armor +2</em></li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 5528315, member: 59082"] This is a second part of [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-discussion/304001-help-me-build-11th-level-ranger-please.html"]this thread.[/URL] I started a new one because I have a basic template of the character, but wanted it critiqued with any further suggestions. [U][B]Basic Concept [/B][/U]I am creating an 11th level elf ranger that I want to be focused on the bow but with good melee skills; I'm willing to sacrifice some ranged options for a bit of melee capability. I originally envisioned two short swords, but am now intrigued with the idea of paired bastards swords. On first glance the idea of wielding two bastard swords seemed kind of silly, but now it just seems fun in a gonzo sort of way (especially since I discovered the [I]paired [/I]magic weapon!) and it fits the concept of my character. The basic idea of the character is a kind of accursed wanderer, sort of a hybrid of Aragorn and Legolas but with a darker edge. I haven't worked out the details of his background yet, but perhaps he was a prince or lord of his people but is exiled for some reason. [U][B]The Dilemma - Hunter or Two-Blade? [/B][/U]I originally imagined this character as taking Hunter Fighting Style - I like the improved Quick Draw and it fits with the ranged first, melee second concept. However, the difference between using two short swords and two bastard swords is significant and with a paired magic weapon, the character wouldn't have to carry around two big swords. Plus I simply like the "kewl" factor of pulling out a bastard sword and then "splitting" it into two weapons; it tickles by 12-year old self! Anyhow, the "dilemma" may not really be one, I'm just weighing the pros and cons of both. Quick Draw and Toughness even out because I want both anyways, so I'm just having to buy one or the other (even though the Hunter version has a slight extra perk). Basically I'm weighing the cost of spending a feat on Bastard Sword Proficiency and being able to use two big swords vs. having an extra feat to spend, but having to use two short swords. It seems almost like a no-brainer - I don't really lose out on anything ranged related by taking Two-Blade; I can still take Sharpshooter as a Paragon Path, for instance. Or am I missing something? [U][B]Magic Items [/B][/U]We use a slightly different method of buying magic items in our group for higher level characters: rather than three items, one of level, one below, and one above, plus money equal to one level lower, we just convert it all to monetary value and buy what we want. So I have 32,000 GP to work with. What I am struggling with at this point is relatively minor: Do I want a +3 ranged weapon or +3 armor? It is hard to manage both, unless I skimp on another area - and I want to make sure I have at least +2 melee weapons and defenses. In the character below, I went for the Moonbow +3 as it is just cool - I like the reloading arrows and the high crit (I was originally thinking a Vicious Greatbow +3, but the Moonbow is more evocative). Anyhow, let me know if you think there is any way I can improve the item configuration. Below is what I have so far. Let me know if there is any fine-tuning that you would recommend: [B]11th level Elf Ranger [/B][B]Ranger Feature: [/B]Prime Shot [B]Fighting Style: [/B]Two-Blade Fighting Style [B]Paragon Path: [/B]Sharpshooter [B]ABILITIES: [/B](starting 17, 14, 18, 11, 15, 11 - racial increases to DEX and WIS; increases to STR x2, DEX x2; paragon increase) STR 20, CON 15, DEX 23, INT 12, WIS 18, CHA 12 [B] AC: [/B]26 [B]Defenses[/B]: Fort 25, Ref 26, Will 23 [B]HP[/B]: 87 [B]SKILLS (Trained): [/B]Athletics, Dungeoneering, Nature, Perception, Stealth. [B]FEATS: [/B]Toughness(from style), Master at Arms, Weapon Focus (Bow), Weapon Focus (Heavy Blades), Weapon Prof (Greatbow), Weapon Prof (Bastard Sword), Improved Defenses, Quick Draw. [B]POWERS[/B] [B]At-Will: [/B]Fading Strike, Twin Strike [B]Encounter:[/B] Evasive Strike, Disruptive Strike (3), Biting Volley (7) [B]Daily: [/B]Split the Tree, Spitting-Cobra Stance (5), Attacks on the Run (9) [B]Utility: [/B]Invigorating Stride (2), Healing Lore (6), Blood of the Fallen (10) [B]MAGIC ITEMS [/B] [LIST] [*][I]Moonbow +3[/I] (greatbow) [*][I]Paired Vicious Bastard Sword +2[/I] (this is a combined magic item, as discussed in another thread) [*][I]Bracers of Archery[/I] (heroic) [*][I]Medallion of Death Deferred +2[/I] [*][I]Summoned Hide Armor +2[/I] [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Critique my Ranger
Top