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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gaiden" data-source="post: 1736418" data-attributes="member: 103">That is true if I went Samurai 4, Fighter 16.  However, Samurai 10, Fighter 10 with my 17 int will not really be too much of a big deal.  Taking Samurai at 1st, means a total of 164 skill points, 104 of which are from the Samurai.  The skill cap for skills is character level based and not class based unless it is a class exclusive skill.  This means that I could max out Sense Motive (23)Iaijutsu Focus (23), Intimidate (23), and Diplomacy (23), and Bluff (23) spending some of the fighter skill points (I just spent 15 minutes setting up a spread sheet).  I can even get 9 ranks in tumble.Not possibleSee aboveBAB is very important for this character especially because this character's tactics:  disarm, and powerattacking.  I'd love to have the character multiclass into ninja.  However, if I understand the rules correctly, a ninja can't multiclass with Samurai because one is required to be honorable (i.e. lawful) and the other is required to be nonlawful.  I'd prefer for the character to be as badass of a swordsman as possible.  Right now, I'd say he is pretty darn badass.  He is in smackdown range with the right spells from the shugenja he is protecting (the other PC) at midlevels.  Of course, I want him to become famous (infamous) as a Scorpion as well and it would of course do well for him to be important within the clan for that to happen.  Descriptively, I see this character holding an almost contradictory sense of honor.  He for example would not ambush an opponent:  he would announce his presence first - picture the assassin sent after Kenshin in the OAV series that Kenshin slices down the plane of symmetry.  If you recall the ninja stepped out first to let Kenshin ready himself.  On the other hand, loyalty to Rokugan first, the emporer second, and the scorpion clan third will dictate his every action.    In the tradition of the scorpion he will lie, show no mercy, etc.  I have not yet decided if he would use poison - I am thinking that he would against dishonorable opponents and would not against honorable opponents.  I guess that is an important caveat - against an honorable character, he would show every respect and honor accorded, against a dishonorable opponent, he would show none.  This is how I imagine him gaining a name for himself and gaining acceptance in Rokugan at large.I don't expect that I would be able to defeat a Crane in an iaijutsu duel, especially an iaijutsu master.  As described above, I would be able to max out iaijutsu, I have a pretty nice charisma (14), and I get to increase the ability slightly from the training benefit associated with the dojo of lies.  I certainly would not be bad at iaijutsu - just not as good as the crane.  Now, this might be a reason to get void use, instead of subtle manipulator.  I'll wait for feedback on that.This build shows promise but loses 2 points of BAB.  I'd rather go R4/S8/F8.  I think the +1 to hit is more useful than the sneak attack and skill points.  Actually going by the math in my previous post, every point of AB converted using PA gives me +6 dmg, so yes, BAB is more important than SA.Multiclassing is rare in Rokugan, at least according to the books.  I figured I might be stretching it to dual class with the Samurai and Fighter.  Also, you start running into the problem of dojo's being focused to certain types of classes.  I don't think there is a scorpion dojo that trains both Samurai and Ninja.  I am pretty sure the dojo of lies trains samuria, fighters, and rogues - IDHMBWM.  With that said, I would gladly sacrifice a few levels to gain some Ninja levels.  I lose no BAB and get Sneak Attack.  But as I said above, I don't think it is rules legal to multiclass the samurai and ninja.Westwind, why do you say the will save is so crucial for the Scorpion?  Regardless, if it is that important, perhaps I should be looking at the PrC that is all about fighting superior forces (grants immunity to fear).  Also, there is a dojo that grants a huge bonus to your will save for mind effecting things and such when you are protecting your charge.  I already have it built into my background that I will essentially be a yojimbo of sorts to start out with protecting a shugenja.  Thoughts?</blockquote>

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