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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7878948" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Actually, I had to read your posts a couple times before I understood what you were talking about. You sort of jumped from one thing to another (although related) when it isn't an obvious jump.For example, you were talking about cognitive load and also about advantage/disadvantage (A/D), and how it doesn't stack. Your post read as if you meant A/D didn't stack because it was too complicated to track multiple sources, etc. and players would have a hard time with it. BUT what you were talking about is the load created by having to understand, run, and such several different methods of benefits or penalties, when the A/D system already does that.Why not have Bless grant advantage instead of a random 1d4 bonus? Then you have one less system to think about (that bless adds a random bonus) because the A/D system could cover it.Why have Expertise double proficiency? It could simply grant advantage as well (FWIW, this is what we do at our table). One more sub-system would go away.So, your point was if A/D stacked, a character under the Bless spell with Expertise would get to roll 3d20 and take the best one instead of adding 1d4 and doubling proficiency. One elegant system could over all these different sources of benefit. But, since A/D doesn't stack, you can't use it for all these sources of benefit. That means there is no point in casting bless on someone with expertise because they wouldn't benefit from it.Once that was clear what you were actually talking about when you were discussing cognitive load, etc., it obviously made more sense. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7878948, member: 6987520"] Actually, I had to read your posts a couple times before I understood what you were talking about. You sort of jumped from one thing to another (although related) when it isn't an obvious jump. For example, you were talking about cognitive load and also about advantage/disadvantage (A/D), and how it doesn't stack. Your post read as if you meant A/D didn't stack because it was too complicated to track multiple sources, etc. and players would have a hard time with it. [I]BUT[/I] what you were talking about is the load created by having to understand, run, and such several different methods of benefits or penalties, when the A/D system already does that. Why not have Bless grant advantage instead of a random 1d4 bonus? Then you have one less system to think about (that bless adds a random bonus) because the A/D system could cover it. Why have Expertise double proficiency? It could simply grant advantage as well (FWIW, this [I]is[/I] what we do at our table). One more sub-system would go away. So, your point was if A/D stacked, a character under the Bless spell with Expertise would get to roll 3d20 and take the best one instead of adding 1d4 and doubling proficiency. One elegant system could over all these different sources of benefit. But, since A/D [I]doesn't[/I] stack, you can't use it for all these sources of benefit. That means there is no point in casting bless on someone with expertise because they wouldn't benefit from it. Once that was clear what you were actually talking about when you were discussing cognitive load, etc., it obviously made more sense. ;) [/QUOTE]

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