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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tsyr" data-source="post: 280542" data-attributes="member: 354">Maybe some of the difference in my perspective vrs, say, Billy's, is that around here, we have... um... I guess the best way of describing it is a "tough crowd". I live in a fairly small, fairly religious town, that still has it's share of "DnD is Evil" people, sadly. So there is no board down at the local gaming shop to find groups or players... heck, there is no local gaming shop, except for a Sam Goody that carries a few odd products. You find out about gaming groups through word of mouth, and you can't be afraid to travel a bit... there are basicly a half a dozen towns in a 60-mile radius that all have the same "pool" of gamers... One person drives 40 miles to my games, another drives 30... And I drive 40 miles to a game I play in. You don't even get started unless your serious about it. Not to say we don't have many gamers or anything, we do... I know of at least 40 or so that would make up my "potential gamer pool"... but it's a bit more work. And while people do move away or quit gaming, we are never at risk of running out of gamers... enough "recruiters" in the local school systems (Sons or younger brothers of older gamers, and indeed a few of our regulars are still in highschool) ensure that there is always a crop of gamers "on deck", if you will.Likewise, because of the effort involved in gaming, there is a very low tollerance for the idiots, jerks, uber-power-munch-lawers, immature kids who can't hear the word "sex" without laughing, etc. You make no friends, and very quickly you stop getting invited to the group. Said players, after having worn out their welcome two or three times, tend to congregate in their own groups... such groups, when I have sat in on them, tend to be very monty-haulish... people killing pit fiends at fourth level with a dagger, for example. The rest of the groups continue on. So the end result is that people who portray things badly and offend people just don't last. Rather than enforce house rules to deal with people, we just deal with the people directly. It's better, in the long run... you can stop a player from playing females badly, but you can't stop them from PLAYING badly... and like others have said, if they botch females that bad, that isn't their only problem. So rather than spoil the fun of the entire group and set a bad precedent, we just take the player aside, tell him that he isn't really fitting in to our play style, and give him a session or two to "clean up", and failing that, he's out. I've only ever had to do that one time as a DM, and no, it wasn't fun. I didn't feel good about being an "elitist snob" or something like that. It was something that I felt had to be done, and did it. I know other DMs have done it too. But overall, I feel it is a better solution than to get soured on something we enjoy because of a bad player.</blockquote>

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