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<blockquote data-quote="mhacdebhandia" data-source="post: 4528048" data-attributes="member: 18832"><p>Like I said upthread, I haven't played a cross-gender PC long-term. So my objection is based less on what <strong>I</strong> want to play, and more on what a rule against cross-gender PCs says about the GM or the group as a whole - which is to say, at the very least, they have very different ideas about what's important in gaming than I do. In other words, I can't even imagine how it could be an issue unless the people involved are people with whom I wouldn't game for plenty of other reasons.</p><p></p><p>It's also a fact that every single game I have played in for a long time has had a cross-gender PC - specifically, every game has had at least one male player with a female PC - and these have all been great games with great characters:</p><p></p><p>A justice-obsessed sorceress tracking down her fallen angel father in a Planescape game, a snooty Aes Sedai (but I repeat myself) in a Wheel of Time game, a risk-taking slightly-whacked-out vampire hunter in a <em>GURPS</em> game - and I've heard about a great female knight played by a male friend of mine in a <em>GURPS</em> game of which I wasn't part.</p><p></p><p>Forget that they're <strong>female</strong> characters played by men - they're <strong>good</strong> characters which would have been forbidden by dumbass rules against playing cross-gender PCs. The sorceress wouldn't have been the same character if she'd been a man; the female knight would have had a completely different character trajectory if she'd been a man; the vampire hunter would have represented something very different if she'd been a man; and hell, the Aes Sedai wouldn't even have existed if she'd been a man, since all Aes Sedai are women and none of the women in that game wanted to play one - though we did have a seekrit male channeler, as it turned out.</p><p></p><p>(In fact, when I think about that Wheel of Time game, it was the <strong>female</strong> players at the table who played the slutty stereotype, or the hardass bitch, or the character who seemingly existed for the sole purpose of having a sexual encounter with the player's favourite character from the books - and was literally retired the session after she achieved that goal.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mhacdebhandia, post: 4528048, member: 18832"] Like I said upthread, I haven't played a cross-gender PC long-term. So my objection is based less on what [b]I[/b] want to play, and more on what a rule against cross-gender PCs says about the GM or the group as a whole - which is to say, at the very least, they have very different ideas about what's important in gaming than I do. In other words, I can't even imagine how it could be an issue unless the people involved are people with whom I wouldn't game for plenty of other reasons. It's also a fact that every single game I have played in for a long time has had a cross-gender PC - specifically, every game has had at least one male player with a female PC - and these have all been great games with great characters: A justice-obsessed sorceress tracking down her fallen angel father in a Planescape game, a snooty Aes Sedai (but I repeat myself) in a Wheel of Time game, a risk-taking slightly-whacked-out vampire hunter in a [I]GURPS[/I] game - and I've heard about a great female knight played by a male friend of mine in a [i]GURPS[/i] game of which I wasn't part. Forget that they're [b]female[/b] characters played by men - they're [b]good[/b] characters which would have been forbidden by dumbass rules against playing cross-gender PCs. The sorceress wouldn't have been the same character if she'd been a man; the female knight would have had a completely different character trajectory if she'd been a man; the vampire hunter would have represented something very different if she'd been a man; and hell, the Aes Sedai wouldn't even have existed if she'd been a man, since all Aes Sedai are women and none of the women in that game wanted to play one - though we did have a seekrit male channeler, as it turned out. (In fact, when I think about that Wheel of Time game, it was the [b]female[/b] players at the table who played the slutty stereotype, or the hardass bitch, or the character who seemingly existed for the sole purpose of having a sexual encounter with the player's favourite character from the books - and was literally retired the session after she achieved that goal.) [/QUOTE]
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