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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7229352" data-attributes="member: 12731">Thank you. Yes, sadly the Sage was completely mistaken when he claimed the CE feat does not turn the crossbow into a semiautomatic weapon. A "crossbow machinegun" is precisely what the raw rules lead to: characters running around with a single hand crossbow shooting up to nine or more times during a nova round... all at melee range or 120 ft range complete unhindered... utilizing a -3/+10 mechanism at will... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm    :-S" data-shortname=":-S" />Do the first and third benefits of Crossbow Expert turn a hand crossbow into a semiautomatic weapon? The short answer is yes.You need a hand free, which is not a problem since all you are carrying is your single hand crossbow! You need plenty of ammo, as if that was a problem.All in all, I strongly suspect the devs themselves aren't clear on exactly how powerful the SS+CE combo is. It certainly appears as if the Sage doesn't understand how his own game works...It's all there, right in the answer. All the pieces are there, only he puzzles them together to form a "no" when it to me is immediately apparent the puzzle forms a "yes"... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />I can only understand the answer if given by someone using the scimitar + hand crossbow as their unquestioned starting point. And yes, the ammunition loading is an issue if you hold something in your other hand. But you don't have to - the feat expressly allows you to do your main action attacks with the same hand crossbow you're then using to make your bonus action attack!It gets worse - you pretty much MUST use a single hand crossbow. Any other configuration actively does not work; since you must have a hand free to load it.So it's not just that the feat can be used to turn a hand crossbow into a semiautomatic weapon, it MUST be used to turn a hand crossbow into a semiautomatic weapon (at least if you want to make your maximum number of attacks each round).</blockquote>

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