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<blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6983064" data-attributes="member: 6774887"><p>Umm...in UFC you cant keep someone pinned to the ground with only one hand while you use your other hand to pummel your opponent. The 5e rules for grappling are further from reality than they have been in any edition (and they have never been very close to reality).</p><p></p><p>There is a reason soldiers of war didnt all just grapple eachother then repeatedly stab them until they died. If you are armed with a weapon, reality says the most effective tactic is to hit your foe with a weapon. Not to use one hand to both knock your opponent prone and pin them to the ground. </p><p></p><p>Of course arguing that D&D combat is in any way realistic would be a fools errand. So it is much better to just accept that 5e is highly gamist in nature and that the rules of the game world make shove/grappling the optimal strategy against solo enemies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashkelon, post: 6983064, member: 6774887"] Umm...in UFC you cant keep someone pinned to the ground with only one hand while you use your other hand to pummel your opponent. The 5e rules for grappling are further from reality than they have been in any edition (and they have never been very close to reality). There is a reason soldiers of war didnt all just grapple eachother then repeatedly stab them until they died. If you are armed with a weapon, reality says the most effective tactic is to hit your foe with a weapon. Not to use one hand to both knock your opponent prone and pin them to the ground. Of course arguing that D&D combat is in any way realistic would be a fools errand. So it is much better to just accept that 5e is highly gamist in nature and that the rules of the game world make shove/grappling the optimal strategy against solo enemies. [/QUOTE]
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