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<blockquote data-quote="juggerulez" data-source="post: 6734389" data-attributes="member: 98250"><p>is it beside the point? for real? lol.</p><p></p><p> So they can't use the same propriety for both a ranged 1 handed weapon and any other light one handed weapons because it creates confusion. ok I take it. </p><p> If you think i'm missing the point, we're done here. Two handed weapons must be operated with 2 hands but can be handled by just one. It's simple as that, you don't need to believe me, just read the errata. or is the errata beside the point too? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p> because there is no wiggle room to assume it's different than this... believe it or not.</p><p></p><p> rules are crystal clear: if you wanna use TWF both weapons must have the light propriety and must be melee weapons.</p><p></p><p> good for you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I was just reading the rules as they are written. If this pulls your leg, well... :v</p><p> well repetita iuvant, they used to say in the old times <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> so? why should you give up something? no other style expects you to, so why should you? o.o'</p><p></p><p> It's an explanation of how well trained people won't have issue by shooting in point blank. Even in 3rd edition you had a feat called "point blank shot" which removed the issue entirely, so why the perplexity?</p><p></p><p> beats me, but they did it anyways <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p>well this is just your opinion. Mine is that they are pretty straight forward and i don't see any discrepancies or sloppyness or counterintuitiveness... so perhaps it is just me, or perhaps it is just you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> perhaps you're correct here. I'm speaking about ranged combat as seen from RAW and RAI perspectives. What are *you* talking about? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>ya rly</p><p></p><p> we finally agree on something <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>The disadvantages are that you can't dual wield two hand crossbows or 1 hand crossbow and 1 melee weapon. No warhammer witch hunter characters here, no fun allowed! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not saying that you didn't understand them, I needed to quote RAW to make my arguments and explained RAI to prove my points. If you felt treated as someone who lack basic reading comprehension, I'm sorry I couldn't make clear that I'm not here to teach you how to read, rather than to show you that your approach on the matter was from a different angle than it should have been, and to suggest you to adjust accordingly. If you still consider your angle the better one, there is little to further discuss about <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="juggerulez, post: 6734389, member: 98250"] is it beside the point? for real? lol. So they can't use the same propriety for both a ranged 1 handed weapon and any other light one handed weapons because it creates confusion. ok I take it. If you think i'm missing the point, we're done here. Two handed weapons must be operated with 2 hands but can be handled by just one. It's simple as that, you don't need to believe me, just read the errata. or is the errata beside the point too? :lol: because there is no wiggle room to assume it's different than this... believe it or not. rules are crystal clear: if you wanna use TWF both weapons must have the light propriety and must be melee weapons. good for you :) I was just reading the rules as they are written. If this pulls your leg, well... :v well repetita iuvant, they used to say in the old times :) so? why should you give up something? no other style expects you to, so why should you? o.o' It's an explanation of how well trained people won't have issue by shooting in point blank. Even in 3rd edition you had a feat called "point blank shot" which removed the issue entirely, so why the perplexity? beats me, but they did it anyways :lol: well this is just your opinion. Mine is that they are pretty straight forward and i don't see any discrepancies or sloppyness or counterintuitiveness... so perhaps it is just me, or perhaps it is just you :) perhaps you're correct here. I'm speaking about ranged combat as seen from RAW and RAI perspectives. What are *you* talking about? :lol: ya rly we finally agree on something :) The disadvantages are that you can't dual wield two hand crossbows or 1 hand crossbow and 1 melee weapon. No warhammer witch hunter characters here, no fun allowed! :lol: I'm not saying that you didn't understand them, I needed to quote RAW to make my arguments and explained RAI to prove my points. If you felt treated as someone who lack basic reading comprehension, I'm sorry I couldn't make clear that I'm not here to teach you how to read, rather than to show you that your approach on the matter was from a different angle than it should have been, and to suggest you to adjust accordingly. If you still consider your angle the better one, there is little to further discuss about :) [/QUOTE]
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