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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6689172" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>Reading comprehension FAIL on my part then. I glanced at it the other night and I remember being surprised that it had more offensive power than I thought; I probably misread "two attacks; one with longsword and one with whip" as "two attacks with longsword and one with whip." Thanks for the correction.</p><p></p><p> @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=54380" target="_blank">shoak1</a></u></strong></em>, I did a quick BOTE calculation to see how you derived that and came up with CR 21 instead of 19.</p><p></p><p>59*2 melee + 20 aura + 140/3 death burst + 70/3 flame storm = 208 DPR = offensive CR 24 +1 for +14 to attack = offensive CR 25</p><p>262 HP (resistance multiplier is x1) = Defensive CR 13 + 3 for +6 to AC +1 for MR = Defensive CR 17</p><p>Average(17,25) = 21</p><p></p><p>However, I wouldn't mind stealing your modifications to the Balor and just bumping up the CR appropriately. I'll probably justify the AC boost by giving the Balor Fiendish Blessing like a Cambion. Conveniently, the Balor's CHA is exactly +6. Consequence: if the PCs manage to Feeblemind the Balor, it gets significantly easier to kill. I like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6689172, member: 6787650"] Reading comprehension FAIL on my part then. I glanced at it the other night and I remember being surprised that it had more offensive power than I thought; I probably misread "two attacks; one with longsword and one with whip" as "two attacks with longsword and one with whip." Thanks for the correction. @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=54380"]shoak1[/URL][/U][/B][/I], I did a quick BOTE calculation to see how you derived that and came up with CR 21 instead of 19. 59*2 melee + 20 aura + 140/3 death burst + 70/3 flame storm = 208 DPR = offensive CR 24 +1 for +14 to attack = offensive CR 25 262 HP (resistance multiplier is x1) = Defensive CR 13 + 3 for +6 to AC +1 for MR = Defensive CR 17 Average(17,25) = 21 However, I wouldn't mind stealing your modifications to the Balor and just bumping up the CR appropriately. I'll probably justify the AC boost by giving the Balor Fiendish Blessing like a Cambion. Conveniently, the Balor's CHA is exactly +6. Consequence: if the PCs manage to Feeblemind the Balor, it gets significantly easier to kill. I like that. [/QUOTE]
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