Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
CRs/ELs -- apparently the designers don't read the rules they talk about (old thread)
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3799748" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Err, just to note, Quas, but the designer's sentiments were from early 3E years, right? And in 3.0 rules, standard goblins have a CR of 1/4th, and standard kobolds have a CR of 1/6th.</p><p></p><p>Edit:</p><p>Also, for my own little anecdote, my very first game of 3E (3.0) was when I ran a little 1st-level homebrewed adventure in my first homebrew setting.......in which the PCs had to deal with a clan of kobolds that were kidnapping people, robbing them, and eating them..... I didn't have any trouble challenging the PCs in that campaign.</p><p></p><p>The PCs fought gangs of average kobolds, smaller groups of more-experienced 2nd-level kobold warriors, and the occasional 1st-level, 2nd-level, or 3rd-level kobold sorcerer mixed in (no big damage spells though), as well as an encounter with a kobold ranger and his pack of trained badgers and dire rats, and at the end an encounter with the kobold king's guards (half a dozen kobold fighters of 1st-level I think it was), a 2nd or 3rd level kobold shaper-psion (throwing astral constructs at them), then a 2nd-level kobold cleric and the kobold king himself (a 3rd-level kobold warrior using a +1 short sword). By the time they reached the kobold king (after a couple of days at least), some of the PCs were 2nd-level (not everyone showed up consistently to the game).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3799748, member: 13966"] Err, just to note, Quas, but the designer's sentiments were from early 3E years, right? And in 3.0 rules, standard goblins have a CR of 1/4th, and standard kobolds have a CR of 1/6th. Edit: Also, for my own little anecdote, my very first game of 3E (3.0) was when I ran a little 1st-level homebrewed adventure in my first homebrew setting.......in which the PCs had to deal with a clan of kobolds that were kidnapping people, robbing them, and eating them..... I didn't have any trouble challenging the PCs in that campaign. The PCs fought gangs of average kobolds, smaller groups of more-experienced 2nd-level kobold warriors, and the occasional 1st-level, 2nd-level, or 3rd-level kobold sorcerer mixed in (no big damage spells though), as well as an encounter with a kobold ranger and his pack of trained badgers and dire rats, and at the end an encounter with the kobold king's guards (half a dozen kobold fighters of 1st-level I think it was), a 2nd or 3rd level kobold shaper-psion (throwing astral constructs at them), then a 2nd-level kobold cleric and the kobold king himself (a 3rd-level kobold warrior using a +1 short sword). By the time they reached the kobold king (after a couple of days at least), some of the PCs were 2nd-level (not everyone showed up consistently to the game). [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
CRs/ELs -- apparently the designers don't read the rules they talk about (old thread)
Top