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<blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 913166" data-attributes="member: 3887">I hadn't thought of the corollary; Trek being authoritarian yet anti-military. That works perfectly. By the time of Voyager it really seemed as if all conflicts between an individual and &quot;Starfleet Protocol&quot; was resolved in favor of the protocols. What a bland and propagandist way to treat material that should to be dramatic.One gets the feeling that the Starfllet of Voyager's era had an official news publication called Pravda...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I disagree that DS9 often fell into that trap. I hold the two big offenders were TNG and VOY. DS9 did attempt question the infallibility of the Federation's ethics/actions; clumsily {though entertainingly} with Section 31. Better with the Maquis. Perhaps best in the actions of Benjammin Sisko. This all gets back my thesis; which I should have stated explicitly. What JSM does well constitutes the fundemantals of drama {even if his execution frequently falters}. And what has become the trademark of later Trek; the blandness, the bland multiculturalism that serves to homogenize every alien race while at the time subtely trumpting human superiority, its lack of real ethical connumdrums {because they can't show the Federation position to ultimately be wrong}, constitutes the opposite of drama. And it shows...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mallus, post: 913166, member: 3887"] I hadn't thought of the corollary; Trek being authoritarian yet anti-military. That works perfectly. By the time of Voyager it really seemed as if all conflicts between an individual and "Starfleet Protocol" was resolved in favor of the protocols. What a bland and propagandist way to treat material that should to be dramatic. One gets the feeling that the Starfllet of Voyager's era had an official news publication called Pravda...:) I disagree that DS9 often fell into that trap. I hold the two big offenders were TNG and VOY. DS9 did attempt question the infallibility of the Federation's ethics/actions; clumsily {though entertainingly} with Section 31. Better with the Maquis. Perhaps best in the actions of Benjammin Sisko. This all gets back my thesis; which I should have stated explicitly. What JSM does well constitutes the fundemantals of drama {even if his execution frequently falters}. And what has become the trademark of later Trek; the blandness, the bland multiculturalism that serves to homogenize every alien race while at the time subtely trumpting human superiority, its lack of real ethical connumdrums {because they can't show the Federation position to ultimately be wrong}, constitutes the opposite of drama. And it shows... [/QUOTE]

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