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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 914967" data-attributes="member: 8439"><p>you know, again, I LIKED bab5 but I'm not sure you have a case here. The trumpeting of human superiority in B5 was not terribly subtle at times. There was a very blunt first season ep where the alien races each demonstrated their (one, race wide) religion. At the end, Sinclair showed all the mirdrid religions of earth. If the trek races were homogonized, at least you copuld hope it was a mistake or omission...</p><p></p><p>Another very disapointing thing JMS did that just screamed 'trek' was presenting alien religions or superstitions as analogies for problems with real life ones (the family who killed their child after surgery, the race that died off in superstitious response to a plauge), but sucking up to the real thing. After the "miracle" of sheridan's rescue, all these wacky alien pilgrims are showing up to seek the "holiness". Zack tells one to "touch the plant" that was nearby, and he does so with a look of brainless awe. Moments later a group of monks come to join the station. Are they here to "touch the plant"? They seem to be some flavor of catholic, would it be reasonable to assume that a church on earth which officially believes in miracles might have sent someone to investigate? Oh no, they just happen to be here at the same time in a scholarly, religious humanist sort of mission, and have many secular skills and abilities which make them invaluable to the station... Any rift in alien religions is a cause for a genocidal war, but later a nice group of protestants, muslims et al show up and are all good friends with the monks, working together for the greater good... </p><p></p><p>(breath ... breath)</p><p></p><p>OK, rants and essays aside, my point is that the criticisms you are making of trek can be fairly applied to B5 just as easily. JMS might have pushed the envelope a little more, but in the end we are talking about a television series that toed all the common lines that both old and new trek did. Make the analogies with another race, subtlely show the equality of the future, but make it good and clear that humans in general and a culture that looks strikingly western is just good to the bone, despite some bad apples...</p><p></p><p>Kahuna Burger, who was never a member of the Church of Joe...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 914967, member: 8439"] you know, again, I LIKED bab5 but I'm not sure you have a case here. The trumpeting of human superiority in B5 was not terribly subtle at times. There was a very blunt first season ep where the alien races each demonstrated their (one, race wide) religion. At the end, Sinclair showed all the mirdrid religions of earth. If the trek races were homogonized, at least you copuld hope it was a mistake or omission... Another very disapointing thing JMS did that just screamed 'trek' was presenting alien religions or superstitions as analogies for problems with real life ones (the family who killed their child after surgery, the race that died off in superstitious response to a plauge), but sucking up to the real thing. After the "miracle" of sheridan's rescue, all these wacky alien pilgrims are showing up to seek the "holiness". Zack tells one to "touch the plant" that was nearby, and he does so with a look of brainless awe. Moments later a group of monks come to join the station. Are they here to "touch the plant"? They seem to be some flavor of catholic, would it be reasonable to assume that a church on earth which officially believes in miracles might have sent someone to investigate? Oh no, they just happen to be here at the same time in a scholarly, religious humanist sort of mission, and have many secular skills and abilities which make them invaluable to the station... Any rift in alien religions is a cause for a genocidal war, but later a nice group of protestants, muslims et al show up and are all good friends with the monks, working together for the greater good... (breath ... breath) OK, rants and essays aside, my point is that the criticisms you are making of trek can be fairly applied to B5 just as easily. JMS might have pushed the envelope a little more, but in the end we are talking about a television series that toed all the common lines that both old and new trek did. Make the analogies with another race, subtlely show the equality of the future, but make it good and clear that humans in general and a culture that looks strikingly western is just good to the bone, despite some bad apples... Kahuna Burger, who was never a member of the Church of Joe... [/QUOTE]
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