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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 925169" data-attributes="member: 710">Maybe it is only Federation/Starfleet Propaganda we hear in Startrek, but as far as I understood, the planets the Federation gave the Cardassions were part of the Federation until the treaty. They were given away as the price for peace.I believe the Federation forced the Cardassions to secure safety for the former colonies, but unfortunately, only on paper. The Cardassian gave (throuh non official means) money and weapons to Cardassian settlers to attack the Maquis planets, unfortunately the Federation or Starfleet could never really prove it and thus cannot act on this. On the contrary, the treaty with the Cardassions force them to fight their own former colonies to ensure the peace...As a side note, even if it is a political thingie:The founders of the communistic ideas, Marx & co did never really explain how it would look like, they only described the way it the history would develop on this matter - maybe they did not knew themselves how "true Communismn" would work. Maybe the communistic states we saw in the past and see in the present prove that Marx and Engels and whoever was else associated with these concepts were wrong, but on the other hand, many ( I believe even all) did not follow the historical course they described (going from Feudalismn to Capitalismn to Socialismn to Communismn. The sowjets, as an example, went from Feudalismn to Socialism/Communism without staying long in the Capitalismn "realm" - they claimed the few months between the two revolutions were their Capitalistic part of the history, but ...) Finally, it doesn`t matter for now - if we ever change our systems to whatever we will figure out to be better, it might be in a far future, and we know that the current or past systems were or are not perfect... In Startrek, the Far feature has "arrived" and the Federation is assumed to have a better system, even if we do not really know how it looks like. In fact, if the writers described the system so well, we would already know how it would like today and could change to the Federation system... To some extent, the Federation system is similar to the Warp Engines - we can use it as an element of our story, but we cannot really explain how it works, because than we could already have Warp Engines today...</blockquote>

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