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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 925757" data-attributes="member: 8439">ah, but to extend the extension... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> The warp drives to not suddenly turn out to be flawed in design. As you say it takes damage (from terrorist attacks on a government) a break down (such as when colonists are stranded for so long their&nbsp; interests become radically different from the federations) or an anomaly (like the invasion of parasitic nasties in high levels of power) to cause a problem, and many episode have in fact focsed on solving that sort of problem with the machine of the federation. But Gordi does not call up to the bridge one day and say &quot;captain, I just realized that the whole warp drive design is flawed and we can expect star ships to start blowing up once they hit 80,000 light years&quot; and ST does not tell stories about the failure of their entire system of government. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I perfer the black box method to stories like starship troopers which do spell out a &quot;perfect&quot; system of government, with many asides about why it is perfect. Just like it gets silly when start trek tries to use real science (introns, anyone?) its detracts from the story when sci fi tries to show The Future of real politics.Kahuna Burger</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 925757, member: 8439"] ah, but to extend the extension... :cool: The warp drives to not suddenly turn out to be flawed in design. As you say it takes damage (from terrorist attacks on a government) a break down (such as when colonists are stranded for so long their interests become radically different from the federations) or an anomaly (like the invasion of parasitic nasties in high levels of power) to cause a problem, and many episode have in fact focsed on solving that sort of problem with the machine of the federation. But Gordi does not call up to the bridge one day and say "captain, I just realized that the whole warp drive design is flawed and we can expect star ships to start blowing up once they hit 80,000 light years" and ST does not tell stories about the failure of their entire system of government. ;) I perfer the black box method to stories like starship troopers which do spell out a "perfect" system of government, with many asides about why it is perfect. Just like it gets silly when start trek tries to use real science (introns, anyone?) its detracts from the story when sci fi tries to show The Future of real politics. Kahuna Burger [/QUOTE]

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